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I think any poker player fulltime or recreational, is prone to tilt, and what I've learned is that spotting the symptoms early is really helpful in being able to stop it from doing to much damage. So here's a thread for you to note down the symptoms of YOUR tilt.

Here's some of mine

-Being less talkative / silent / moody
-Looking at my cards as soon as I've been dealt them
-Sighing and exhaling when folding, losing a hand etc
-Getting wound up by tiny unimportant things
-Opening/3betting/squeezing/peeling wider, becoming more stubborn, trying more fancy things to try and win pots - just basically trying to win every pot
-Being a bad "professional" for the game
-Taking less care over betsizes, throwing chips in aggressively, acting quickly.

Way before any of that you can start to feel frustration start building.

Definitely the looking at my cards as soon as I've been dealt them for me.

I'd even go as far as looking at one card before the other one arrives at times

Although when I do this is PLO it is less tilt, more sorting out my hand in my head

My biggest sign is I feel really hot, normally when my hoody/hockey shirt comes off I've lost a big pot or someone has riled me (rarely happens these days, maybe 1 year ago when I was chattier at the tables)


All of these, I also talk more during a hand for some reason, I notice I announce a lot of bets when I don't really need do.

Yeah alot of what you said Alex and for me a feeling of disdain towards other players that are being happy at the table :).  It doesn't last long, but still its my cue to deep breathe or give myself a talking to.

Live - I could be playing online / never playing a live tournament ever again

Online - unfiltering higher stakes

When it's not going well you don't want to see the annoying bloke at the table chirping away as he hits every hand and demonstrating his liking to tell the table how great he is. It's a bit more palatable when you're winning as well.

Obviously recognising the symptoms is really important.

Intrigued to know what people then do about it?

How do we 'untilt' ourselves?

Walk away? Have a breather outside? Have a drink/peruse the menu?

Watch some kinky stuff online?

In before Barry Carter....

I play too many hands when i'm on tilt. And I end up in "fuck it, I'm not folding" mode, even when I know i'm probably beat.

What we are talking about here is 'emotional state control'. We all recognise the early 'symptoms' of tilt. What we also have to appreciate is that our bodies will also be going through some genuine physiological changes as the mind/ body stuff reacts to our feelings and internal dialogue. Hence we can feel ' uncomfortable' ' hot ' a little angry and negative. Our blood pressure probably changes and we will be making less than optimum decisions which only makes things worse and hence things spiral. Maria mentioned giving herself a talking to. That is correct.We have to recognise the symptoms,then have a conversation about how to react.If you have got to it early it might just be giving yourself a bit of a 'shake up', a few deep breaths,don't play a hand for a couple of orbits and get your 'state' back in control.
         If you have already gone a little further down the tilt path you need to stop and breakout of the path you are on.Stop means physically stop,change your environment and give your mind and body time to recalibrate ( don't forget your brain and body is doing all sorts of stuff and this needs to be cleared out, hence time and a change are required ). Unfortunately often our approach is to soldier on,tilt more and do our stack. ( I have a Doctrate in spewing chips ).
           Take a break,shake it out and return playing ABC for a while. If it's gone to far go home.There's another game tomorrow.

Hope this helps.

My shirt tears and i turn green. Dont get me angry, u wudn like me when I am angry.

There are two distinct types of 'tilt' that you see - the instant tilt that happens after a perceived  'injustice' such as a bad beat, and the longer-term tilt that builds up after a number of frustrations over a period of time, such as a bad period where you have lots of consecutive losing sessions, and it can feel as though you're never going to win again.

The short-term tilt is easier to deal with, as you can walk away and start again after a break, or even call it quits for the night and come back to it when you've had a chance to sleep on it.

The opposite, don't look at my cards and open/3b any opens lol.

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Generally just push action and set out to win stacks in every hand I play. Get frustrated by things in and outside of the game, the slowness of the game is what gets to me the most, but when I'm winning obviously these other things don't bother me close to as much.

^ I've noticed the same with a lot of players I play with, if we could get it under control some be a lot more profitable in live games.

Cost me too many nice things in 2012

lad!

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Done this myself at DTD a few weeks back. 3bet from the SB without looking and got called by original raiser.

C bet without looking on a flop of  3s 5h 6d, got effectively shoved on.

Thought I better have a look......  7h 4h

Hello!! The guys with KK wasn't too happy!

Still knew I was tilted to Tipperary and back, and continued to play like a douche for 20 mins before I managed to force myself home. Could have been a very ugly session without this hand though.

balla.....

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For me it's not so much other players or players mistakes that tilt me, I can live with those because we all want to play against sub standard players, it's the mistakes I which I make that do it. The last 2 iancredible 100's I've played I've spunked away 3 x average chip stacks in 2 hands because I'd made a bad call when I knew I shouldn't have. It's like I'm trying to punish myself for the error. I need to change my attitude.

Cue Barry.

How you react to the randomness of the cards is all part of the skill of playing poker. If you play a hand well but get devestated by some injustice on the river then overall you didn't play the hand well. 

What??? So no one else bursts into tears and withdraws into a session of snivel-folds?

Massive whatevs!

I've seen that in Vegas!

My river bluffing frequency becomes directly proportional to "how much i fkin hate this guy"

Also instead of thinking in ranges etc I just think "fk him"

You promised you wouldn't say anything!

tbh this is your standard line <200nl

"pairs are hard to make.....Im all in"

I start to call way more and fold/raise way less - basically i start playing the absolute worst type of poker possible

I get more passive, avoiding higher variance spots for the fear of losing "even more".

Online I start to watch showdowns, even going through a 20 table stack on occasions to see how I get sucked out on this time.

Mumbling, sighing etc.

Probably a couple of things when I play online:

- ocassionaly a dosage of fancy play syndrome
- getting easily distracted by things going on around me/online distrations
- losing focus on the table dynamics, HUD stats of opponents, stack sizes, etc

I'm hoping to cover a lot of this in time on the thread I have running about Mental Game if anyone cares to look in http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=59932.0

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Same for me - Although getting muffed is obv fustrating, after I've done the usual "FFS" 'Massive sigh' etc it doesn't bother me at all or put me on tilt - Only thing that puts me on tilt is me!!

I tilt the wrong way most of the time. Instead of peeling when I shouldn't and mashing chips in for no reason, I tend to fold hands I should open and this normally results in additional frustration when my tilted results-oriented brain kicks in. Eventually I just become a silent, hunched over teenager in a hoody making sure all my chips are the same way up and going over that brutal river/bad flop peel/poorly-timed cold 5 in my head.

Also I try even harder to look at the game objectively when I'm on tilt, which means I don't allow for momentum and confidence even when I do start winning pots. This is not so bad online of course, but in live poker everyone fears "the rush."

I try to file away hands that I could have played differently or bad beats into a mental filing cabinet. All credit to Honeybadger for that technique. The second that cabinet gets full and I have to leave the file "sofuckinglucky.txt" on the mental desk where I can see it and can't resist peeking at it, that's the moment I'm supposed to pick up and run for the cash desk. At Gala, I always seem to reach that moment when the shutters on the bank are down for a few minutes, and this is plenty of time for me to go broke!

This x10000000000000000000

Haven't read the whole thread but i'm kinda curious when exactly do you look at your cards normally then?

When it comes round to you to act?

'Whatever, if he has it he has it. Nothing i can do'.

Become a massive station and try justify it with the above at the time.

Playing any double suited hand in PLO..

Imagine how slow poker would be if everyone did that

I tend to look as the person before me is about to act that way most the people are concentrating on him if I do have any tells they may get through!

What slows the game down is people thinking for too long which tilts me bad!!

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I look whent the player befor me is doing there shit. Only time i will look as the cards are coming at me is when im first to go