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Don't know if we ever have 'ask me anything' threads in this forum but they're popular on reddit and 2p2 so i thought i'd give it a go.

Going to bed now and will be away all weekend but will be able to answer questions most of tomorrow and then again tuesday onwards.

Those who know me IRL would confirm I'm not homosexual-acting (those aggressive queers hate the term 'camp', le sigh) and as I'm romantically much more interested in girls it doesn't actually play a big part in my life; I realised about 6 months after I first realised I liked girls, and since then it's given me next to nothing in terms of problems.

I first came out at school when I was 14 to four trusted school-friends, the next day everyone knew, after 2 weeks of taunting (and realising it would be pretty difficult for me to stay in the rugby team) I took my opportunity when someone asked me 'Mike, you're just doing this for the attention, aren't you?' and retracted it. Then at age 18 I came out again to everyone at my school at the leaving party.

I'm not out to my parents but would do so (not particularly happily, but w/e) if I were to have a long-term male partner, which I view as relatively unlikely. All my close friends know; I 'officially' came out properly on FB, twitter and 2p2 a while ago, like a year or something.

Fair play to you mate, not easy to do. One of my top 2 mates is bisexual, but mostly spending his time with guys. He lived with a girl for a long time and didn't really come out until he was 30 or so.

He is someone I go out on the beers with all the time and go traveling with sometimes as he has the same wanderlust as me. I really couldn't give a toss whether he is gay straight or whatever, he is still the same top mate i met 25 years ago irrespective of his sexuality.

 :)up

Also here if anyone wants to ask me about heterosexuality

Gowan then another 5%

Jk ;) fair play.

What's it like not having to worry about whether or not you're the same as most people around you? That you're not a freak and a weird dude?

What's it like coming to terms with the fact that yes, you're the same as most of those around you, and no-one is going to lay into you the rest of your life, potentially, about being the same as everyone?

What's it like not having a constant reminder, day in day out, that those around you are different, that some might never accept you for who you are, that some people might think you're an abomination, and that many people don't think you have the same rights as everyone else?

What's it like not having to deal with those people that are completely ok with opposite sexes displaying their affection or desire in public, but then turn around and say when you want to do those things 'that's disgusting, i'm ok with it in theory, just don't do it in public', as if to remind you that you yes, you're normal and can do the thing you're used to doing and like doing?

I could go on. Just to make the point, I'm narcissistic and an attention whore and need to get to 300 posts so I can post a marketplace thread, and bumping old strategy threads is a slow process as I'm trying to put effort into most of my posts, so I thought I'd talk about something close to my heart. I realise that this response could have been entirely innocent but I see it from time to time and it riles me up a little, the idea that because you're vaguely ok with it, and that society isn't as f***ed as it was ten years ago, that there's nothing remarkable about being LGBT (still not sure what the Q means), and that as a result it shouldn't get talked about. Well, I'm basically ok with my sexuality and have never received any real homophobic abuse, but the majority of the LGBT have suffered massively, often during the incredibly stressful years of being a hormonal teenager. Suicide rates are much, much higher in the gay community. We're part of a society that is described as 'heteronormative' - if you're straight, you just don't think about it, but if you're gay or otherwise, you have a constant reminder in the form of *everything* around you that you're not the same as everyone else and not everyone else may accept you. Adverts using sex to sell, tv shows, couples walking hand in hand.

Rant over.

I'm not the same as everybody around me either, in fact I'm unique, and it's OK

I've always wondered that once a bi-sexual gets married can you still be a bi-sexual? Wife would go nuts imo.

Marrying someone doesn't change your sexuality (in before "just your libido"). It is a commitment to one person.

Fair play to you, wazz, for your candour. I've never met nirvana but can confirm that even by his posts on blonde, he wouldn't easily be described as 'normal'.

Me on the other hand...

I don't think I've ever met anyone who is normal.

Any particular reason why you've not told your parents. As a parent myself is be pretty sad and disappointed if any of my children felt they could tell the world but not me. Would they not take it well?

Indeed.

I don't have any questions, but I will say I appreciate your candor and this is the most interesting way to reach 300 posts I've seen so far.

I only hope you'll continue to be as constructive once you've reached that milestone as I've enjoyed your posts thus far :)

Sigh....

Everyone is an individual except me.

Would never have guessed..

Sexiest man in the world & sexiest woman in the world? for me it's Ryan Gosling & Mila Kunis ainec. #ManCrush

I think these days your average joe in the UK isn't remotely bothered about whatever your sexuality is. Who even has time to care? and those that care in a negative way, why would anyone be bothered by what they think?

I'm not a fan of any forms of PDA in general, this could be down to never being loved as a child, spending 8 yrs in the military or just my general squeamish nature.. I just don't like seeing people kissing and canoodling in public, be they boy-boy,boy-girl,girl-dog etc.

#dendrophiliaFTW (in private of course)

Don't worry Red, I am not an individual either, so that at least makes two of us. You do like picking other people's scabs and cold pizza right?

Do you find that poker is more homophobic as an industry/community than most? Jason Somerville is the only openly gay male player I know of, which seems incredibly disproportionate.

 

I think football might run it close

It was football that I had in mind when I asked the question. Both seem to be a bit of a 'boys club' (and the top end of both are full of brilliantly talented young men with too much money and not an ounce of common sense between them).

Couldn't be married to a girl who didn't love and accept me for who I am. There's some belief that bisexuals are less trustworthy in relationships because there are twice as many people to cheat on. Well, the way I see it is that if I'm gonna cheat on you, I'm gonna cheat on you, and if I'm not gonna cheat on you, I'm not gonna cheat on you, and my sexual attraction doesn't determine my loyalty and how happy I am in a relationship.

The three most important girls in my life have all been bisexual as well, including my last girlfriend of 2.5 years (we just split up 5 weeks ago). Make of that what you will.

I just don't think anyone cares Barry, its 2013.

So there is no homophobia any more?

I'm much more uncomfortable than your average person when it comes to discussing anything sexual with my parents. It's not their fault and I do genuinely feel bad about the fact that I'm not willing to tell them but it's also something I'm not obligated to do, and tbh I'm not sure they'd be that interested anyway. My dad just wouldn't understand - he's old-school and doesn't display his emotions or talk about things like this anyway, and my mum wouldn't really care, but it's just a step I've never felt the need to take, whereas I have often felt the need to come out to those around me, even if it doesn't play a big part in determining who I am.

I mean poker world specifically.

No; sometimes inappropriate language gets used (including on the forums) and there's a big part of me that wants to stand on the tables and shout 'YOU CAN'T SAY THAT AAAAAH' but it's not my place to say. Or maybe it is.... I don't know. Inappropriate language gets bandied about in most walks of life, but then again I do see myself as a defender of the weak; I'm not weak myself, at least not in this regard, but I do know very well, albeit second-hand, about the struggle that goes on, and do know as well that inappropriate talk, while usually innocent and naive, can foster a hostile environment and make it much more difficult for anyone considering coming out to do so.

That's one of the hardest things for most of the LGBT community, btw. It's far from easy for me, even though I work on giving people impression I don't give two sh**s. Every time I've done it, I've been greeted with nothing but respect, acceptance and curiosity, yet it's still scary. Imagine what it's like for the guys who aren't confident in themselves, hear people calling each other 'fags' all the time, have never done it before and stand to risk their friendships if things go wrong.

But to get back to the original question, no, I don't think the poker tables are particularly homophobic. People are generally better-educated than in other walks of life (particularly football) and come from better backgrounds. I've never seen anyone be homophobically abused at the tables.

You would be very wrong, sir. Look at the debates in the houses of parliament. I went for lunch with a few poker players a couple of months ago, including one 20buckspin if any of you know who he is, and when the subject came up, he proved himself to be a staunch right-wing intolerant bigot and we ended up having a bit of an argument about the subject.

The world still has lots of problems, even in 2013.

As a bisexual do you feel there is any kind of negativity towards people who are Bi from people who consider themselves 100% gay? Much in the way that straight people have homophobia, is there any prejudice or non acceptance from gay people?

Replied to Barry, I meant in the poker world.

You might not be obligated as such, but ya really should tell your parents. 

A good friend of mine 'came out' to myself and a few close friends before he told his parents.  His mom struggled with that way more than anything else.  It might not seem like a big deal to you, but as a parent, honesty from our children is really important.

Yes. We play for different teams. They feel we are closer in kind than straight people but they also don't really understand us and sometimes feel threatened by us; a lot of the time they are a teeny weeny bit bi themselves and hearing that someone else is openly bi makes them a little uncomfortable.

The worse thing I've ever heard regarding my sexuality was as an 18-year old in a queue for a gay club in soho, on my own. Started up a conversation with a someone and he said 'well you really shouldn't be coming to this club, this club is for gays only'. Was utterly shocked.

Obviously it exists and it always will, at least until we abolish a few religions and make sure everyone is properly educated amongst some other things. There will be many Gay footballers and poker players but I think we are at the stage now where people don't have to openly come out and make a big deal of their sexuality. Many, rightly so, don't see themselves as being any different to the next man so why should they say anything in the first place? I wouldn't just come out and say oh btw, just to let everyone know I fancy women..

I joined the RAF in 2002, which I think was 2 years after the LGBT act was passed allowing gay people to join up. We had a few openly gay guys in my flight and I imagine there were a few I didn't know of. Some people openly admitted it, some you would have no idea about, but they would happily tell if asked and some seemed afraid to say anything in case they were persecuted. One of the latter group who is still a very good friend of mine didn't tell me he was bi until like 6 months of us being mates.. When he finally told me he was actually crying and shaking. I asked him wtf was wrong with him and he said "I thought you wouldn't want anything to do with me any more" I told him he was being ridiculous and was actually quite insulted he would think that of me. It turns out when his best mate before had found out they never spoke again. So his environment and preconceptions had lead to him thinking I would react negatively when in actual fact I wasn't remotely bothered.. anyway a couple of years later he came out as being fully gay and married another guy but they are divorced now. I genuinely had no idea at the time and thought he just enjoyed a naked wrestle now and then, although he did once call me gay for my love of Grease and Bugsy Malone. #MusicalsFTW

You will always see or hear of singular instances of bigotry but in general I would say the vast majority out there (in the UK) don't remotely care whatever sexuality someone is. Get a poll up.

Is there a clear difference between your attraction to men then there is to women? Usually men are more attracted to looks and women are more attracted to power confidence then looks.

Is there an aspect of social attraction when it comes to certain men and women?

You've also said that recently you've felt more of a romantic connection towards women rather then men, which reminds me of Freuds theory on Innate bisexuality, all humans are born bisexual but turn monosexual with their bisexuality being present but inactive. Would you say there's some truth in this theory?

Do you feel less dissonance with your sexuality now then when you were younger? And has societies tolerance made this easier?  

What kind of porn do you watch? (Serious question)

Android or Iphone? Windows or Mac?

I'd agree that the vast majority of people don't care, but that's not the issue. The issue is that you don't know who will care and who won't, Ultimately anyone caring about it enough to give you abuse can be very difficult to deal with, and not knowing whether someone you care about as a friend will disown you is very scary.

Yes there is a difference - I'm more superficial when it comes to my attraction in women. I can ignore bad personality traits and my lust for women is based on looks alone, where with men I am more likely to ignore good looks in favour of good personalities, but that's certainly not an absolute - I'll be turned off by a hot girl that's a horrendous person and it's very difficult for me to be attracted to an ugly guy, just that average guys are more attractive to me if they're golden people, while very few average girls are attractive to me even if they're a bright star.

I've seen that explained from an evolutionary standpoint - in general, the range of different looks on women that are considered attractive is narrower than that of men, because males are the aggressive sex in finding a mate, and females can be more selective, they choose men on the basis of personality traits rather than looks. Not quite sure if I'm explaining that well.

I have no idea how to rate Freuds' views in this regard; I'm more au fait with the Kinsey Scale which is itself massively outdated I believe. A friend (bisexual, surprisingly) believes that everyone's bisexual if you get enough booze and/or drugs into their system.

I've never really felt dissonance at all; the only source would be that for the longest time I felt bad about not being more public about it. Coming out has made me feel like a better person, but that's only indirectly connected to my sexuality. I've seen society get more relaxed over my own lifetime, which makes me happy, but the fight is not over - I certainly feel a degree of responsibility to helping others come out.

About 95% of the porn I watch is lesbian, 2% gay, 2% miscellaneous, 1% straight.

Iphone, but windows.

You are on a night out, there is miss amazing is 1 corner, and mr amazing in another. Both giving you the eye, and you are an absolute lock to pull

What is the deciding factor in your head as to which way you go on a given night?

Option C is surely the best one of beckoning them both over to you at the same time?

Are you attracted to men and women in different ways?

For example with men it might be looks which first attract you while with women it might be personality.

Or is it the same with both sexes?

Ben Grundy, Robin Keston and Simon Eastwood?

Missed that one. Sorry.

Really? I feel a twonk for not knowing that already, especially because I actually know two of the three.

Not close, I prefer girls sexually as well as romantically. Factors that influence my decision would include who I'm out with - if I'm out with straight guys I'll always go for the girl, if I'm out with girls and/or gay guys I'll probably go for the guy. That's all factors regarding the overall attractiveness of each being equal, ofc, I will often decide not go go for a girl because she appears massively slaggy or chavvy.

That takes work and skill. I would relish the challenge.

Pretty sure Ben is married to his partner.

Back when I was a single man, this was the complete opposite of my selection criteria

We should have more AMAs btw, some of the most interesting people I've ever met have come from this forum.

+1

2% miscellaneous porn lawl. (no rubs intended)

Hey mate, cool thread, interesting perspective. As a younger member of the forum I can't really remember a time where homophobia or the like existed to a degree where someone felt persecuted. I had a semi weird experience at school when I heard through a friend (laughing) that another boy in my sixth form, who was a bit strange, "fancied" me. It was quite a bizarre experience at that age and in that environment, I guess I was quite lucky it was a private school. He wrote on facebook about his previous love for a man on a random girls status a few months ago, this was perhaps the scariest experience.

I feel like the majority of internet poker players are quite liberal and accepting, have you found 2+2 to be the same?

Not quite on topic but are you the Wazz of outrageous 5/10-nosebleed omaha run? Or was it your housemate or something? I feel like I have the right sn but it might not be you.

Very much so (first question).

Very much not so (second question). I heard something about a guy with a similar screenname going on a sicko run @ 5/10 plo, it was on this forum in fact. My old housemate gavz101 went on a sicko run up to the nosebleeds a couple of years ago including battling isildur and beating the crap out of him at 100/200 plo hu 4 tables, that was pretty amazing to watch.

David bakes baker is gay

Has a Brazilian poker player bf also


Dunno how I remember this but it was in a podcast

This is Bakes partner.

Pretty sure (but not 100%) its a woman

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=maridu&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=hiY&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=S2mfUYGVIOO80QXViYHoBA&ved=0CDUQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=1096

Did I play Chinese with you lilDave and Linton at Dtd during MC weekend?

Any plans to bring back the tasche?

Yes!

None but I'm amenable to it if anyone makes a big purchase on my package when it comes up.

sigh I have a 3 years olds chin and cant grow a beard/tasche to save my life, you're one was epic. Such a shame to have got rid of it.


This has gotta be the longest set of posts to reach 300 for staking ever! rather than just alot of 'lol' 'ditto' etc.

I think I'm confusing you for Gavz, sorry man, must have been sick to watch. Really good posting all over so far, I might not be able to buy the inevitable available action but I hope it all goes smoothly and best of luck.

seems greedy

lol thats either a brilliant post or a ..... well

hoping its the former :)

Haha this is something that rarely gets said directly to me, at least not seriously.... but I have heard it before and it does make me laugh everytime.

Standard nandos order?

Bet he has chips and rice.

you sort of have to as getting a large portion of rice instead of a normal one with garlic bread or chips is -ev

Fittest male and female character from Lost?

Fairplay for posting this , but its 2013 didnt realise its such a big issue?


Great way to get your posts up for stakeage though wp  ;D

Many remain against same-sex marriage and words like 'faggot', 'poof', etc are still widely spoken. Improving, but still a big issue in my opinion.

And the "gay raise".

Incred.

Nice to see you here on Blonde Mike - we played at the Hippo the other day. See you around.

Think it's a bit disrespectful to your parents that you would tell the world and the next stranger of your sexuality, but not your parents. It would be pretty crappy if they found out of someone else.

Think its first time I'm gonna post agree with Aaron

It's pretty crappy for you to tell someone else what to do regarding who they should come out to. Cool if you're a parent and all but it's not your business. You don't know me or my relationship with my parents.

This. Just because you don't experience the problem yourself or don't see it happening doesn't mean it isn't a huge problem - it is. Gay people are currently second-class citizens in this country by virtue of not being able to marry, and you not caring about the issue doesn't stop it being an issue.

Cheers. Yeah I remember you, talking about your dad in Deauville.

I wasn't telling you what to do, I was just informing you how disrespectful it actually is and it's completely your choice what you do. However, you have not just decided to tell your friends, but actually the whole world by posting on here. I think your parents may be gutted to know that they was the very last people to find out and in actual fact strangers knew first. Yes, I can appreciate the fact I know nothing about your parents, but what I've gathered from this is that you should tell them, IMO.

I know lots of people who 'came out' to close friends before parents, but to complete strangers on the Internet before parents? Sighs.

I really do admire the fact you've posted on here about this, in fact I think it's great to see, but was very disappointed to see about the parents situation.

To be fair to Aaron, wazz, he's by no means the first person to make that point ITT.

Part of me thinks it's none of our business why you have chosen not to tell your parents but to announce it to the internet. But another part of me doesn't blame anyone ITT for asking you why.

It's obviously an emotive issue - not just the reasons for the revelation but the overall issue of sexuality - so it is pretty difficult to know how to approach 'asking you anything'.

Opening the door as widely as you have in posting on here does mean occasionally getting a question or a viewpoint you don't like. It is a valid one and not one unique to Aaron on this occasion, however inappropriate you consider it to be.

Nevertheless, I do wish sometimes, Aaron, you could choose your words in such a way that made your point a bit less...y'know...Aarony

I gotta say I'm pretty broad minded and I'm not easily shocked by this sort of stuff. However when my mate opened up about the sort of stuff he gets up to sometimes I was pretty aghast at the promiscuity within some the gay scene, and apps like scruff and grinder to hook up   :D

I think most single straight blokes would give their right arm to find it that easy to hook up for a casual meet with a bird  ;whistle;

I also think Aaron makes a good point, just a bit too Aarony as Tal says.

The reason why I think its a good point is simply that poker is a really small world, and you are quite well known within it. All it takes is for you to have a big result and they could find out because of that. For example you make a WSOP final table, your mum tells your auntie maureen, she googles your name and finds this thread.

I travelled all the way to the other side of the world a few years ago to Brisbane and the first Brit I met out there, upon hearing I play poker, asked me if I knew Barry Neville of all people.

Never really fancied any of the guys, Kate was my favourite girl, obviously.


I don't mind telling strangers, but I don't have the sort of relationship with my parents where I feel comfortable talking about any aspect of my sexual life. Do I wish I did? Er, no. Do I wish I did to the extent that I could come out to them? Vaguely. If I was gay, it would be much more of an issue, as I would be hiding a major part of my life, and I almost certainly would have come out by now. But I don't have sex with dudes often, am not camp, and it does not determine my lifestyle in any significant way, and I quite simply do not feel the need to come out to them.

Again, without knowing the specifics of my relationship with my parents, I'd like you to respect my choice and leave it at that.


I can appreciate all that. But this thread isn't meant for people to ask me to do anything or criticise my choices. I've given a brief explanation of why I don't want to come out to my parents.

If someone were to out me to my parents, well, that would suck, but suck less hard than me coming out to them.

Yeah the gay sex world can be extremely seedy, but given how horny straight guys are, it shouldn't be a surprise!

I don't really get the whole purpose of a bi-sexual 'coming out' as it goes, to strangers or parents. Think op said he was in a longterm relationship with a girl, so what, you approach your parents and say you know I've been with Debbie for 3 years? Well just to let you know, I still fancy Bill sometimes. If you got serious about a guy it would be time to talk but until then discussing sexual preferences with your parents is wtf imo. What if your mum starts telling you her sexual fantasies? Er no thanks.

Have always thought the sexual orientation question on employment applications is plain weird aswell.

Yeah this seems to be along the right lines. Your sexual orientation is your own business and no-one else has the right to know, but you should have the right to tell whomsoever you want.

Not having applied for many jobs, is it really ask on employment application forms? That is amazing.

I don't really eat nandos but when I do it's usually a hot half and rice with coleslaw.

That's gotta be a wind up, never seen that.

I don't think I've ever seen it but I've heard about it during job interviews

No way would it be classed as sackable offence if you lied about it.

Nothing surprises me- on a McDonalds application there was multiple choice questions where you answer strongly agree, partially agree, unsure, partially disagree, strongly disagree. Some of the statements/questions were along the lines

It is wrong to take stuff from work home
I dislike working with people with different skin colour to me

That is always separate from the actual application. The people who mark the application will never see it. It cannot be used as a reason to dismiss/reject an application.

The idea for collecting that data (and ethnicity, gender, age and so on) is so that the employer can guage whether it is advertising the role fairly and making positions viable/suitable to people of all types.

It is common practice now.

There is an option which reads "prefer not to say" if you would rather keep your sexual habits private. However, this will make you sound like a sexual deviant with secrets to hide.

lol wtf? I'm ticking 'gtfo its none of your business' every time.  :D

That's fine.

Was he owed some money?

"Do you want to buy some Fireworks"

I don't mind telling strangers, but I don't have the sort of relationship with my parents where I feel comfortable talking about any aspect of my sexual life. Do I wish I did? Er, no. Do I wish I did to the extent that I could come out to them? Vaguely. If I was gay, it would be much more of an issue, as I would be hiding a major part of my life, and I almost certainly would have come out by now. But I don't have sex with dudes often, am not camp, and it does not determine my lifestyle in any significant way, and I quite simply do not feel the need to come out to them.

Again, without knowing the specifics of my relationship with my parents, I'd like you to respect my choice and leave it at that.



Wazz, some if this isn't making sense to me, really. I think you are excusing the reason you haven't told parents, because you are "bi-sexual" and perhaps you are hoping you meet a lady and therefore never have to tell them? The comments about camp made me chuckle, perhaps because you are less feminine than other gay or bisexual guys, that is making it ok.

I also think you are a but confused here also that you say it doesn't affect your life in anyway, but you seem to want tell a complete set of strangers about something that doesn't affect your lifestyle?

As others have mentioned a quick search on Google or a whisper here and there could see anyone get there hands on this topic.

Also, have you had any questions from players about this since you payed here?

But generally people do not give a toss about gays at the poker table, you will just get lots if innuendos.

Hope that was intentional. ;tightend;

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhtFKNNd04A

Well Aaron. Many of your posts I disagree with, many times I gave nearly replied...lhowever thanks, I have literally spat my coffee about across the room at that one - comedy genius or unintended I'd love to know.

Your first paragraph is bang on. I do not want to tell my parents, that much should be clear. If I can get away with doing so, then that's great. If I get a long-term male partner, I'll suck it up.

Being less camp means it's easier to hide. Hiding things is the problem. If I had to deal with the stress of acting very differently around my parents than I did around my friends, I might prefer to get rid of that stress by telling them and allowing to be myself around them. As it is I am myself around them.

I don't mind telling strangers on the internet for a couple of reasons. First of all, I'm a very open person and don't discussing my personal life with people I don't know. Maybe that's a bad thing. I dunno, I don't care, it's me. Sometimes I am conscious I overshare a little so I try to hold it back.

Secondly, I wanted to get myself known to the blonde community relatively quickly for reasons already expressed itt.

Lastly, as it's something I'm comfortable with myself, I hoped I could bring some light onto the issue, and perhaps make it easier for other blondites or poker players in general to feel comfortable coming out. If I could achieve that I'd be delighted.

I don't get asked about this at the tables very often - I think the last time was at a home game 5 years ago when a friend sorta shocked me by asking me about it in front of like 5 other people I didn't know very well. I find that sort of situation slightly awkward and would prefer if someone wanted to talk to me about it they asked me off the table, in private. Aside from anything else, when I'm discussing this, I like to think about it in detail, and I don't want poker to be the distraction from the thing I enjoy talking about.

Not only are my parents generally technologically illiterate, they don't really care about my poker career and I don't think they brag to any of their friends about what a successful poker player I am, so I doubt it would ever get back to them if they did. If it did, well, like I said, that would suck, but less than me telling them as I really really really do not want to tell them as that would be super awkward and painful and unnecessary in my eyes.

I would like to ask you why this has got your goat up so much.

Hey.

It's not got my goat mate, I'm just worried how accessible this could be to your parents and why the last people you tell the parents. There are obvious reasons, but it's clear they will be the last to find out and wondered why, etc.  I still think disrespectful is the right word to use here and G2L makes a good point.

Is there any reason you chose to tell poker players, when perhaps like you say it's not that evident that you are bi?

I also find that when people say they are bi, they later on turn gay completely, do u think this could happen with you? Also when did you know?

 :D seriously aaron wtf  :D

award winning poster on here...he is giving what tighy wanted.

Another beauty, thread keeps delivering

Like I said I wish I could have a better relationship with my parents and I would almost certainly tell them if I was just gay but things are more complicated than that. I do regret that they may feel upset by my not telling them but not enough to tell them pre-emptively and I have a reasonable expectation that they won't find out unless it's from me.

I choose to tell poker players because poker is my living and I'd like to be able to share this piece of information about me with those I work with day in day out.

I've always found that strange, that some people use bisexuality as a stepping stone. I don't see it as that. Perhaps I've been privileged to have been stable in my sexuality from day 1, but I attribute it more to heightened self-awareness than stability. When people say 'I don't believe in labels' I immediately think 'yeah, ok, you're bisexual, but you're scared of the word'. In my view, people who have been attracted to both sexes at some point in their life are bisexual, simple as. The fact that they may not find any dudes attractive right now doesn't stop them being bi. So no, it could never happen with me. If I got to a point in my life and realised I hadn't fancied any guys for a number of years, I would find it weird, but I wouldn't start claiming I was straight. I think it very, very unlikely I would ever stop fancying girls.

Aaron often means well but struggles to express himself in ways that would not be considered over-direct and too abrupt by many.

I don't wish for anything, well possibly I wish for never having done any advent calendars, but live and learn

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FWIW all the posts I have seen from Aaron I do believe he has the best of intentions also, its just the filter between what goes in the head and out the mouth is non existent.

 

Aaron's posts itt have been normal and perfectly within the realms of what is acceptable imo. The guy has debated candidly and provoked some good discussion points. I mean despite wazz protesting he has actually gone on to provide some meaningful responses to aaron's questions. I would say to the "many" that it's a bad idea to try and pressure candid members into following some kinda posting ettiquette because the forum would become dull as ditchwater. Wazz has the balls to start this thread and and he invites an open discussion about his sexuality. Why expect every question to be sensitive and compassionate in a thread entitled ask me anything? Just unrealistic and this continual aaron negativity makes no sense. If we were having this discussion in Betty's tea-room on a Sunday afternoon perhaps I would agree but not on t'internet social media.

Despite getting perhaps a little oversensitive (also very me) I have no real problem with Aarons' line of questioning.

I perhaps wish I could change my tone towards people through the Internet, but I can't grasp where I'm going wrong, perhaps being top blunt & I apologise. I just like discussion.

Anyway, really don't want this to be remotely about me and people who are personal friends from here will know why unasked such questions.

I think it's been something of a decent an insightful read.

Interesting thread. I respect wazz for having the balls to tell a large poker community like this. As far as Aaron's comments go, I see nothing wrong with his posts. He is direct and to the point, what's wrong with that?   

I forget if this has been asked already, if it has just ignore this.

Say for example at some point you win a large live tournament wazz,  surely as a result of this thread you would have to tell your Parents?  Wouldn't they be a bit upset you chose to tell people you didn't know before them?  Any student journalist could locate this thread in a matter of minutes if they had an interest in poker. Poker is about options, as a result of this thread surely you have taken away an option to tell your parents on your own terms. This thread has forced your hand.

 I know you consider poker 'work' however there is a tiny percentage of people on this forum who actually play poker anywhere near the level to make a living from it and I imagine you are unlikely to meet many of the other people like myself who post on here often enough to give reason to tell us.

Regardless, I respect your choices even though I may have taken a different approach in terms of telling people. Best of luck.

Maybe I misunderstood earlier but was this thread suggesting Ben Grundy was gay?  I was up late last night so I may have this wrong, its just I am sure I read an interview years ago where he discusses his girlfriend and desire for a family?

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I'd imagine that the only case in which the mainstream media would take an interest in me would be if I were to win the main event, and even then I don't think they'd find it particularly interesting that I'm out. It's not like it's a scandal for someone to be bisexual. If some reporter did take this to my parents, yeah, it would be disappointing, and I'd be upset, and they might be upset, but I don't see it as a particularly likely scenario, nor the worst thing in the world as I'd be out to them that way.

go on wazzle, thread up by 4pm.

I'm gonna get to 300 posts sometime today or tomorrow, post a few more things, then wait until I get back from a weekend break on monday to post my thread, just to make a point. There's a good chance I'll have sold out on 2+2 by then anyway.

anywhere nice on your weekend break?

Gloucestershire!

wtf, thought you were on 299 posts. Was trying to take the 300th. Did the site crash and wipe some off? You cheese rolling son of a gun.

Milli's getting mad.  He's like the Hulk, only prettier.

We have programmed the software to reset to 296 every time he gets to 299. 

That would really teach us a lesson!

There was always a decent chance I was going to sell out on 2+2, therefore posting here, when it might not even be necessary, shows that I'm not just doing it to get to 300 posts and sell my package.

Pretty elaborate escort thread

Do you fancy Danny dyer?

I'm not bisexual and even I fancy Danny Dyer.*

























*This statement might or might not be truthful

naughty

Oh my word whats happening in the world  ;D

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