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Title: Uninvention
Post by: RED-DOG on March 27, 2015, 06:28:43 AM
If you could uninvent something, what would it be? It's hard to think of something that wouldn't have a serious knock on effect.

I'm going for music. I love music but some bastard keeps playing it in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Oh, and man's ability to split the atom. That's going too before someone gets hurt.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: david3103 on March 27, 2015, 06:51:02 AM
Candy Crush


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: RED-DOG on March 27, 2015, 07:20:17 AM
Candy Crush

Dave. Did Esso have a post here that you quoted or am I going barmy?


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: Steve Swift on March 27, 2015, 07:23:39 AM
Mobile phones, we seemed to get on just fine without them.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: tikay on March 27, 2015, 07:29:14 AM
Candy Crush

Dave. Did Esso have a post here that you quoted or am I going barmy?

Bit of both, really Tom.....

There seem to be two (near) identical threads.

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=65224.msg0#new


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: tikay on March 27, 2015, 07:29:46 AM


Duplicate threads.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 07:35:48 AM
Tom's ability to start threads...


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 07:36:01 AM
Religion.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: RED-DOG on March 27, 2015, 07:56:47 AM
Mobile phones, we seemed to get on just fine without them.

I'm sorry, but you can't uninvent mobile phones because I used one to start this thread and if they didn't exist there would be no thread for you to use to call for their uninvention.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: celtic on March 27, 2015, 08:19:48 AM
Religion.

All religion or some religion?

I just never understand when people say 'ban religion'

PS. I'm not religious. I saw the light.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: MintTrav on March 27, 2015, 08:40:52 AM
Cigarettes


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: AdamM on March 27, 2015, 08:41:47 AM
Religion.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: tikay on March 27, 2015, 08:45:31 AM
Television.

Computer games.

Automatic doors on main line railway carriages.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: RED-DOG on March 27, 2015, 08:53:10 AM
Television.

Computer games.

Automatic doors on main line railway carriages.


TV? You're avin a larf aincha?

What would we watch Sir David on?


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: tikay on March 27, 2015, 09:04:59 AM
Television.

Computer games.

Automatic doors on main line railway carriages.


TV? You're avin a larf aincha?

What would we watch Sir David on?

Maybe we would actually step outside more often, & investigate nature's beauty first hand instead of having it spoon-fed to us.

I think TV, & computer games, have had, overall, a dreadfully corrosive effect upon our lives. It's all too easy.

A survey recently (& we could argue until we are blue in the face as to it's merit or accuracy) suggested that on average, under 15's spend 8 hours per day in front of either TV or a computer. Might be 6 hours, might be 4, or 10. It's a frightening thought whatever.

Little wonder we interact face to face so badly these days.    

Capish?


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: RED-DOG on March 27, 2015, 09:11:53 AM
Television.

Computer games.

Automatic doors on main line railway carriages.


TV? You're avin a larf aincha?

What would we watch Sir David on?

Maybe we would actually step outside more often, & investigate nature's beauty first hand instead of having it spoon-fed to us.

I think TV, & computer games, have had, overall, a dreadfully corrosive effect upon our lives. It's all too easy.

A survey recently (& we could argue until we are blue in the face as to it's merit or accuracy) suggested that on average, under 15's spend 8 hours per day in front of either TV or a computer. Might be 6 hours, might be 4, or 10. It's a frightening thought whatever.

Little wonder we interact face to face so badly these days.    

Capish?


Good points, but TV is a great shop window for the world and it broadens your interests.

Before we had a telly I spent 8 hours a day chasing rabbits and looking for goldfinch nests.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: tikay on March 27, 2015, 09:14:37 AM
Television.

Computer games.

Automatic doors on main line railway carriages.


TV? You're avin a larf aincha?

What would we watch Sir David on?

Maybe we would actually step outside more often, & investigate nature's beauty first hand instead of having it spoon-fed to us.

I think TV, & computer games, have had, overall, a dreadfully corrosive effect upon our lives. It's all too easy.

A survey recently (& we could argue until we are blue in the face as to it's merit or accuracy) suggested that on average, under 15's spend 8 hours per day in front of either TV or a computer. Might be 6 hours, might be 4, or 10. It's a frightening thought whatever.

Little wonder we interact face to face so badly these days.    

Capish?


Good points, but TV is a great shop window for the world and it broadens your interests.

Before we had a telly I spent 8 hours a day chasing rabbits and looking for goldfinch nests.

OK, then we should have a law, or a clever timing device, that limits watching TV to 1 hour per day. 


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: Junior Senior on March 27, 2015, 09:15:00 AM
Religion.

Absolutely this.
Root of all evil.
Pointless
Its the one thing i just see no good coming from. Those that think it brings good are simply fooling themselves and should look formtheir strength and answers elsewhere. It amazes me that even rational and intelligent people can be so religous.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: RED-DOG on March 27, 2015, 09:15:57 AM
Religion.

Absolutely this.
Root of all evil.
Pointless
Its the one thing i just see no good coming from. Those that think it brings good are simply fooling themselves and should look formtheir strength and answers elsewhere. It amazes me that even rational and intelligent people can be so religous.


Amen to that.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: Jon MW on March 27, 2015, 09:17:07 AM
Religion.

Absolutely this.
Root of all evil.
Pointless
Its the one thing i just see no good coming from. Those that think it brings good are simply fooling themselves and should look formtheir strength and answers elsewhere. It amazes me that even rational and intelligent people can be so religous.

I would probably specify organised religion; generally the problem isn't down to faith. The problem comes from the institutions of religion getting subverted into Worldly problems and prejudices.

But if banning religion as a whole did the trick I wouldn't see any harm in that either.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: Junior Senior on March 27, 2015, 09:18:52 AM
Television.

Computer games.

Automatic doors on main line railway carriages.


TV? You're avin a larf aincha?

What would we watch Sir David on?

Maybe we would actually step outside more often, & investigate nature's beauty first hand instead of having it spoon-fed to us.

I think TV, & computer games, have had, overall, a dreadfully corrosive effect upon our lives. It's all too easy.

A survey recently (& we could argue until we are blue in the face as to it's merit or accuracy) suggested that on average, under 15's spend 8 hours per day in front of either TV or a computer. Might be 6 hours, might be 4, or 10. It's a frightening thought whatever.

Little wonder we interact face to face so badly these days.    

Capish?




Good points, but TV is a great shop window for the world and it broadens your interests.

Before we had a telly I spent 8 hours a day chasing rabbits and looking for goldfinch nests.

I spent 3 hours yesterday lookng for a green sandpiper that i saw fleetingly in the same spot a week ago. I couldnt find it. I did however happen upon a kingfisher that i sat watching for an hour and i think i saw a rough-legged buzzard but need someone to help me confirm that and find that again.

No phone
No computer
No stress

Blissful.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: RED-DOG on March 27, 2015, 09:19:26 AM
Television.

Computer games.

Automatic doors on main line railway carriages.


TV? You're avin a larf aincha?

What would we watch Sir David on?

Maybe we would actually step outside more often, & investigate nature's beauty first hand instead of having it spoon-fed to us.

I think TV, & computer games, have had, overall, a dreadfully corrosive effect upon our lives. It's all too easy.

A survey recently (& we could argue until we are blue in the face as to it's merit or accuracy) suggested that on average, under 15's spend 8 hours per day in front of either TV or a computer. Might be 6 hours, might be 4, or 10. It's a frightening thought whatever.

Little wonder we interact face to face so badly these days.    

Capish?


Good points, but TV is a great shop window for the world and it broadens your interests.

Before we had a telly I spent 8 hours a day chasing rabbits and looking for goldfinch nests.

OK, then we should have a law, or a clever timing device, that limits watching TV to 1 hour per day. 


Now I think you're on to something. Perhaps a retina chip that your smart TV recognises.  

It could be programmed to allow like, 2 hours of Life on Earth but only 15 mins of Game of Thrones.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: RED-DOG on March 27, 2015, 09:22:11 AM
Television.

Computer games.

Automatic doors on main line railway carriages.


TV? You're avin a larf aincha?

What would we watch Sir David on?

Maybe we would actually step outside more often, & investigate nature's beauty first hand instead of having it spoon-fed to us.

I think TV, & computer games, have had, overall, a dreadfully corrosive effect upon our lives. It's all too easy.

A survey recently (& we could argue until we are blue in the face as to it's merit or accuracy) suggested that on average, under 15's spend 8 hours per day in front of either TV or a computer. Might be 6 hours, might be 4, or 10. It's a frightening thought whatever.

Little wonder we interact face to face so badly these days.    

Capish?




Good points, but TV is a great shop window for the world and it broadens your interests.

Before we had a telly I spent 8 hours a day chasing rabbits and looking for goldfinch nests.

I spent 3 hours yesterday lookng for a green sandpiper that i saw fleetingly in the same spot a week ago. I couldnt find it. I sid however happen upon a kingfisher that i sat watching for an hour and i think i saw a rough-legged buzzard but need someone to help me confirm that and find that again.

No phone
No computer
No stress

Blissful.


You are the man though Greg. If I wasn't me I would consider being you.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: tikay on March 27, 2015, 09:27:36 AM
Television.

Computer games.

Automatic doors on main line railway carriages.


TV? You're avin a larf aincha?

What would we watch Sir David on?

Maybe we would actually step outside more often, & investigate nature's beauty first hand instead of having it spoon-fed to us.

I think TV, & computer games, have had, overall, a dreadfully corrosive effect upon our lives. It's all too easy.

A survey recently (& we could argue until we are blue in the face as to it's merit or accuracy) suggested that on average, under 15's spend 8 hours per day in front of either TV or a computer. Might be 6 hours, might be 4, or 10. It's a frightening thought whatever.

Little wonder we interact face to face so badly these days.    

Capish?


Good points, but TV is a great shop window for the world and it broadens your interests.

Before we had a telly I spent 8 hours a day chasing rabbits and looking for goldfinch nests.

OK, then we should have a law, or a clever timing device, that limits watching TV to 1 hour per day. 


Now I think you're on to something. Perhaps a retina chip that your smart TV recognises.  

It could be programmed to allow like, 2 hours of Life on Earth but only 15 mins of Game of Thrones.

No no, shit like Game of Thrones would be banned.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: RED-DOG on March 27, 2015, 09:28:59 AM
Television.

Computer games.

Automatic doors on main line railway carriages.


TV? You're avin a larf aincha?

What would we watch Sir David on?

Maybe we would actually step outside more often, & investigate nature's beauty first hand instead of having it spoon-fed to us.

I think TV, & computer games, have had, overall, a dreadfully corrosive effect upon our lives. It's all too easy.

A survey recently (& we could argue until we are blue in the face as to it's merit or accuracy) suggested that on average, under 15's spend 8 hours per day in front of either TV or a computer. Might be 6 hours, might be 4, or 10. It's a frightening thought whatever.

Little wonder we interact face to face so badly these days.    

Capish?


Good points, but TV is a great shop window for the world and it broadens your interests.

Before we had a telly I spent 8 hours a day chasing rabbits and looking for goldfinch nests.

OK, then we should have a law, or a clever timing device, that limits watching TV to 1 hour per day. 


Now I think you're on to something. Perhaps a retina chip that your smart TV recognises.  

It could be programmed to allow like, 2 hours of Life on Earth but only 15 mins of Game of Thrones.

No no, shit like Game of Thrones would be banned.


You mean uninvented?


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: david3103 on March 27, 2015, 09:39:26 AM
I think Blonde needs a new version of Godwin's Law, as follows

"As a Blonde thread grows longer, the probability of Religion being blamed approaches 1"

Perhaps it could be called Kinboshi's Law?


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: DaveShoelace on March 27, 2015, 09:51:08 AM
Television.

Computer games.

Automatic doors on main line railway carriages.


TV? You're avin a larf aincha?

What would we watch Sir David on?

Maybe we would actually step outside more often, & investigate nature's beauty first hand instead of having it spoon-fed to us.

I think TV, & computer games, have had, overall, a dreadfully corrosive effect upon our lives. It's all too easy.

A survey recently (& we could argue until we are blue in the face as to it's merit or accuracy) suggested that on average, under 15's spend 8 hours per day in front of either TV or a computer. Might be 6 hours, might be 4, or 10. It's a frightening thought whatever.

Little wonder we interact face to face so badly these days.    

Capish?


Good points, but TV is a great shop window for the world and it broadens your interests.

Before we had a telly I spent 8 hours a day chasing rabbits and looking for goldfinch nests.

OK, then we should have a law, or a clever timing device, that limits watching TV to 1 hour per day. 

After 35 years of it constantly being on in the background, I made the conscious effort last week to not watch TV. I have watched two hours of telly (Walking Dead and Better Call Saul) in the last seven days and I have been so much happier. I've read more, my energy levels are up and its nice not to have the constant fear mongering of 24 hour news.

Really hoping I can stick to it and reserve my telly to just the great box set type shows, and of course, shows about dogs (Supervet, Paul O'Gradys for the Love of Dogs etc)


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: DaveShoelace on March 27, 2015, 09:55:19 AM
Religion.

Absolutely this.
Root of all evil.
Pointless
Its the one thing i just see no good coming from. Those that think it brings good are simply fooling themselves and should look formtheir strength and answers elsewhere. It amazes me that even rational and intelligent people can be so religous.

It seems to help a lot of rappers win music awards.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 10:02:25 AM
Religion.

Absolutely this.
Root of all evil.
Pointless
Its the one thing i just see no good coming from. Those that think it brings good are simply fooling themselves and should look formtheir strength and answers elsewhere. It amazes me that even rational and intelligent people can be so religous.

It seems to help a lot of rappers win music awards.

..and sportsmen beat other sportsmen (my god's better than your god).


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 10:09:17 AM
I think Blonde needs a new version of Godwin's Law, as follows

"As a Blonde thread grows longer, the probability of Religion being blamed approaches 1"

Perhaps it could be called Kinboshi's Law?

We could also have Kinboshi's Second Law, where when someone mentions religion (be it me or someone else), I get mentioned immediately after ;)


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: DaveShoelace on March 27, 2015, 10:11:43 AM
There should also be a 'we inevitably find out if Camel hates [Person/Subject] being discussed' law.

A Red Dog pun law.

A Red Dog turn it off an on again law.

A Blatch in-joke law.

And of course the 'my god, it really is clicky here' law.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: The Camel on March 27, 2015, 10:12:23 AM
Religion.

Absolutely this.
Root of all evil.
Pointless
Its the one thing i just see no good coming from. Those that think it brings good are simply fooling themselves and should look formtheir strength and answers elsewhere. It amazes me that even rational and intelligent people can be so religous.

Nah, can't have this.

As much as I'm an Atheist and anti religion to say no good comes out of it is massively incorrect IMO.

There lots of dedicated and selfless people who channel their good work through religion.

They'd probably be good people without religion, but even with this caveat, religion is a force for good in lots of places.



Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: The Camel on March 27, 2015, 10:16:27 AM
There should also be a 'we inevitably find out if Camel hates [Person/Subject] being discussed' law.

A Red Dog pun law.

A Red Dog turn it off an on again law.

A Blatch in-joke law.

And of course the 'my god, it really is clicky here' law.

This is pretty easy. There are three types of people I don't like.

People with huge egos.

People who have achieved success/fame way beyond what their skill/talent dictates they should.

And worst of all: The subset of both groups; people who achieved fame way beyond their talent level who have got huge egos.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: DaveShoelace on March 27, 2015, 10:18:19 AM
There should also be a 'we inevitably find out if Camel hates [Person/Subject] being discussed' law.

A Red Dog pun law.

A Red Dog turn it off an on again law.

A Blatch in-joke law.

And of course the 'my god, it really is clicky here' law.

This is pretty easy. There are three types of people I don't like.

People with huge egos.

People who have achieved success/fame way beyond what their skill/talent dictates they should.

And worst of all: The subset of both groups; people who achieved fame way beyond their talent level who have got huge egos.

What about people that kick bunny rabbits? They are c***s too if you ask me.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 10:32:48 AM
There should also be a 'we inevitably find out if Camel hates [Person/Subject] being discussed' law.

A Red Dog pun law.

A Red Dog turn it off an on again law.

A Blatch in-joke law.

And of course the 'my god, it really is clicky here' law.

This is pretty easy. There are three types of people I don't like.

People with huge egos.

People who have achieved success/fame way beyond what their skill/talent dictates they should.

And worst of all: The subset of both groups; people who achieved fame way beyond their talent level who have got huge egos.

What about people that kick bunny rabbits? They are c***s too if you ask me.

Especially if they have personalised number plates.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 10:34:03 AM
Religion.

Absolutely this.
Root of all evil.
Pointless
Its the one thing i just see no good coming from. Those that think it brings good are simply fooling themselves and should look formtheir strength and answers elsewhere. It amazes me that even rational and intelligent people can be so religous.

Nah, can't have this.

As much as I'm an Atheist and anti religion to say no good comes out of it is massively incorrect IMO.

There lots of dedicated and selfless people who channel their good work through religion.

They'd probably be good people without religion, but even with this caveat, religion is a force for good in lots of places.



Sigh, is it really? 


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: simonnatur on March 27, 2015, 10:35:16 AM
Happy to take my chances with nuclear holocaust if we could just uninvent self service tills at supermarkets.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 10:36:11 AM
Can we uninvent Simon Cowell?


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: DaveShoelace on March 27, 2015, 10:53:58 AM
Religion.

Absolutely this.
Root of all evil.
Pointless
Its the one thing i just see no good coming from. Those that think it brings good are simply fooling themselves and should look formtheir strength and answers elsewhere. It amazes me that even rational and intelligent people can be so religous.

Nah, can't have this.

As much as I'm an Atheist and anti religion to say no good comes out of it is massively incorrect IMO.

There lots of dedicated and selfless people who channel their good work through religion.

They'd probably be good people without religion, but even with this caveat, religion is a force for good in lots of places.



Sigh, is it really? 

I'd uninvent people writing the word 'sigh' as a rebuttle.

I'm an atheist too, but think Camel has made a good point that lots of inidviduals have used relgion in a positive way. Maybe you'd like to give an actual reason why you disagree?


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: DaveShoelace on March 27, 2015, 10:54:49 AM
Happy to take my chances with nuclear holocaust if we could just uninvent self service tills at supermarkets.

They are pants, but I do like the 'scan as you go' thing in Tescos.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 11:06:04 AM
Religion.

Absolutely this.
Root of all evil.
Pointless
Its the one thing i just see no good coming from. Those that think it brings good are simply fooling themselves and should look formtheir strength and answers elsewhere. It amazes me that even rational and intelligent people can be so religous.

Nah, can't have this.

As much as I'm an Atheist and anti religion to say no good comes out of it is massively incorrect IMO.

There lots of dedicated and selfless people who channel their good work through religion.

They'd probably be good people without religion, but even with this caveat, religion is a force for good in lots of places.



Sigh, is it really? 

I'd uninvent people writing the word 'sigh' as a rebuttle.

I'm an atheist too, but think Camel has made a good point that lots of inidviduals have used relgion in a positive way. Maybe you'd like to give an actual reason why you disagree?

Surely the burden of evidence is on the person who makes the assertion? 

PS The "sigh" wasn't to be a rebuttal in this case, more that we're getting into another discussion on religion.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: simonnatur on March 27, 2015, 11:16:02 AM
OK, so I'm not religious, but think it's quite hard to refute that shared religion creates a strong sense of community and well being in believers.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: DaveShoelace on March 27, 2015, 11:18:32 AM
Religion.

Absolutely this.
Root of all evil.
Pointless
Its the one thing i just see no good coming from. Those that think it brings good are simply fooling themselves and should look formtheir strength and answers elsewhere. It amazes me that even rational and intelligent people can be so religous.

Nah, can't have this.

As much as I'm an Atheist and anti religion to say no good comes out of it is massively incorrect IMO.

There lots of dedicated and selfless people who channel their good work through religion.

They'd probably be good people without religion, but even with this caveat, religion is a force for good in lots of places.



Sigh, is it really? 

I'd uninvent people writing the word 'sigh' as a rebuttle.

I'm an atheist too, but think Camel has made a good point that lots of inidviduals have used relgion in a positive way. Maybe you'd like to give an actual reason why you disagree?

Surely the burden of evidence is on the person who makes the assertion? 

PS The "sigh" wasn't to be a rebuttal in this case, more that we're getting into another discussion on religion.

Fair enough, it didn't come across that way. I always see stuff like that as short hand for 'lets laugh at this opinion and not even give it the time of day'. A bit like when someone simply replies 'LOL' in a hand discussion forum after someone else's analysis.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: Nakor on March 27, 2015, 11:21:08 AM
(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee509/Nakor99/Peppa.jpg)


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 11:44:28 AM
OK, so I'm not religious, but think it's quite hard to refute that shared religion creates a strong sense of community and well being in believers.

So do One Direction.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 11:45:51 AM
One Direction.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: simonnatur on March 27, 2015, 11:48:14 AM
OK, so I'm not religious, but think it's quite hard to refute that shared religion creates a strong sense of community and well being in believers.

So do One Direction.
Quite so, whatever makes one happy.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: The Camel on March 27, 2015, 11:49:55 AM
Religion.

Absolutely this.
Root of all evil.
Pointless
Its the one thing i just see no good coming from. Those that think it brings good are simply fooling themselves and should look formtheir strength and answers elsewhere. It amazes me that even rational and intelligent people can be so religous.

Nah, can't have this.

As much as I'm an Atheist and anti religion to say no good comes out of it is massively incorrect IMO.

There lots of dedicated and selfless people who channel their good work through religion.

They'd probably be good people without religion, but even with this caveat, religion is a force for good in lots of places.



Sigh, is it really? 

I'd uninvent people writing the word 'sigh' as a rebuttle.

I'm an atheist too, but think Camel has made a good point that lots of inidviduals have used relgion in a positive way. Maybe you'd like to give an actual reason why you disagree?

Surely the burden of evidence is on the person who makes the assertion? 

PS The "sigh" wasn't to be a rebuttal in this case, more that we're getting into another discussion on religion.

The example who came to mind as I was writing the post was this fella: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Daly_%28bishop%29

What he did on Bloody Sunday was almost unbelieveably selfless.

(http://media.irishcentral.com/images/edward_daly_bloody_sunday-ii.jpg)


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 12:11:10 PM
Bloody Sunday you say? We've uninvented religion, there's no Bloody Sunday...


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: simonnatur on March 27, 2015, 12:20:25 PM
Sure we'd soon find another good reason to hate the folk on the other side of town


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: Jon MW on March 27, 2015, 12:23:02 PM
Religion.

Absolutely this.
Root of all evil.
Pointless
Its the one thing i just see no good coming from. Those that think it brings good are simply fooling themselves and should look formtheir strength and answers elsewhere. It amazes me that even rational and intelligent people can be so religous.

Nah, can't have this.

As much as I'm an Atheist and anti religion to say no good comes out of it is massively incorrect IMO.

There lots of dedicated and selfless people who channel their good work through religion.

They'd probably be good people without religion, but even with this caveat, religion is a force for good in lots of places.



Sigh, is it really? 

I'd uninvent people writing the word 'sigh' as a rebuttle.

I'm an atheist too, but think Camel has made a good point that lots of inidviduals have used relgion in a positive way. Maybe you'd like to give an actual reason why you disagree?

Surely the burden of evidence is on the person who makes the assertion? 

PS The "sigh" wasn't to be a rebuttal in this case, more that we're getting into another discussion on religion.

The example who came to mind as I was writing the post was this fella: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Daly_%28bishop%29

What he did on Bloody Sunday was almost unbelieveably selfless.

(http://media.irishcentral.com/images/edward_daly_bloody_sunday-ii.jpg)

I think it was touched on before though that most 'good' people who are religious aren't good because they're religious.

I think there are a small number of people who would actually be turned into being good people because of the example of religion - i.e. they're only good because of it. But there are also a small number (but probably larger) that only do evil things because of the influence of religion.

Overall the net effect, I would think, is probably negative.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 12:28:40 PM
Sure we'd soon find another good reason to hate the folk on the other side of town

That's very true. But one arbitrary reason fewer is a good thing.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: DMorgan on March 27, 2015, 12:51:37 PM
Lying


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: scotty77 on March 27, 2015, 12:59:41 PM
I don't believe in any religion, but one of the reasons why we aren't living in caves and huts still is because of it.  The spread of organised religion allowed us to work together.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: celtic on March 27, 2015, 01:02:30 PM
Bloody Sunday you say? We've uninvented religion, there's no Bloody Sunday...

People were shot in the back because of religion?


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: celtic on March 27, 2015, 01:03:21 PM
Sorry, unarmed people were shot in the back because of religion, is what I meant to post.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: Jon MW on March 27, 2015, 01:12:52 PM
I don't believe in any religion, but one of the reasons why we aren't living in caves and huts still is because of it.  The spread of organised religion allowed us to work together.

Really? I'm happy to reconsider if I see evidence for it - but I'd have thought that defence against neighbouring civilisations was probably one of the main reasons for that.

Uniting against them because they also had the wrong God might occasionally have also featured, but I think the primary feature would have been strong and/or convincing leadership coalescing the defence of your group against outsider groups.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: david3103 on March 27, 2015, 01:21:32 PM
Religion.


Not sure why you were sighing about 'another thread about religion' when this was on page 1


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: TightEnd on March 27, 2015, 01:22:45 PM
Sorry, unarmed people were shot in the back because of religion, is what I meant to post.

it was "unjustifed and unjustifable" of course, but they were shot in the back in the name of public order, weren't they?...not because of their religion being catholic?


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: celtic on March 27, 2015, 01:31:49 PM
Sorry, unarmed people were shot in the back because of religion, is what I meant to post.

it was "unjustifed and unjustifable" of course, but they were shot in the back in the name of public order, weren't they?...not because of their religion being catholic?

Apologies, I meant to add a ? In the second post. Changes the whole wording.

Not sure public order is a good description. But my point was to kinboshi.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 01:34:16 PM
Sorry, unarmed people were shot in the back because of religion, is what I meant to post.

it was "unjustifed and unjustifable" of course, but they were shot in the back in the name of public order, weren't they?...not because of their religion being catholic?

Apologies, I meant to add a ? In the second post. Changes the whole wording.

Not sure public order is a good description. But my point was to kinboshi.

I was referring to the troubles in Ireland, rather than Bloody Sunday itself.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 01:35:37 PM
Religion.


Not sure why you were sighing about 'another thread about religion' when this was on page 1

[ ] That's what I said. 



Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 01:36:25 PM
Lying

Would make poker a little different.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: celtic on March 27, 2015, 01:40:02 PM
Sorry, unarmed people were shot in the back because of religion, is what I meant to post.

it was "unjustifed and unjustifable" of course, but they were shot in the back in the name of public order, weren't they?...not because of their religion being catholic?

Apologies, I meant to add a ? In the second post. Changes the whole wording.

Not sure public order is a good description. But my point was to kinboshi.

I was referring to the troubles in Ireland, rather than Bloody Sunday itself.

I think clarification on what caused 'the troubles' should be sought then. As far as I was aware, it wasn't a religious war.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: bobAlike on March 27, 2015, 02:08:20 PM
Asda/Walmart/Morrisons


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 02:43:58 PM
Sorry, unarmed people were shot in the back because of religion, is what I meant to post.

it was "unjustifed and unjustifable" of course, but they were shot in the back in the name of public order, weren't they?...not because of their religion being catholic?

Apologies, I meant to add a ? In the second post. Changes the whole wording.

Not sure public order is a good description. But my point was to kinboshi.

I was referring to the troubles in Ireland, rather than Bloody Sunday itself.

I think clarification on what caused 'the troubles' should be sought then. As far as I was aware, it wasn't a religious war.

It wasn't a religious war, I agree. It was political and territorial.  However, it was accompanied by vast amounts of sectarianism and bigotry wrapped up in it.  The Crusades were largely for other purposes than being 'religious wars', but religion fuelled and was used as a means of funding, propaganda and justifying what was done.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: nirvana on March 27, 2015, 03:32:27 PM
Sorry, unarmed people were shot in the back because of religion, is what I meant to post.

it was "unjustifed and unjustifable" of course, but they were shot in the back in the name of public order, weren't they?...not because of their religion being catholic?

Apologies, I meant to add a ? In the second post. Changes the whole wording.

Not sure public order is a good description. But my point was to kinboshi.

I was referring to the troubles in Ireland, rather than Bloody Sunday itself.

I think clarification on what caused 'the troubles' should be sought then. As far as I was aware, it wasn't a religious war.

It wasn't a religious war, I agree. It was political and territorial.  However, it was accompanied by vast amounts of sectarianism and bigotry wrapped up in it.  The Crusades were largely for other purposes than being 'religious wars', but religion fuelled and was used as a means of funding, propaganda and justifying what was done.

What do we blame when religion isn't the root of the war/genocide/mutilation etc ? We only have human nature then ? So humans are the denominator - some are bad, some are OK, some are 'saints' - I need you to calm down, stop obsessing about religion and meditate on the fundamental fragility & frailties of mankind.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: redsimon on March 27, 2015, 03:37:00 PM
Asda/Walmart/Morrisons

But not Tesco? :)


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 03:40:02 PM
Sorry, unarmed people were shot in the back because of religion, is what I meant to post.

it was "unjustifed and unjustifable" of course, but they were shot in the back in the name of public order, weren't they?...not because of their religion being catholic?

Apologies, I meant to add a ? In the second post. Changes the whole wording.

Not sure public order is a good description. But my point was to kinboshi.

I was referring to the troubles in Ireland, rather than Bloody Sunday itself.

I think clarification on what caused 'the troubles' should be sought then. As far as I was aware, it wasn't a religious war.

It wasn't a religious war, I agree. It was political and territorial.  However, it was accompanied by vast amounts of sectarianism and bigotry wrapped up in it.  The Crusades were largely for other purposes than being 'religious wars', but religion fuelled and was used as a means of funding, propaganda and justifying what was done.

What do we blame when religion isn't the root of the war/genocide/mutilation etc ? We only have human nature then ? So humans are the denominator - some are bad, some are OK, some are 'saints' - I need you to calm down, stop obsessing about religion and meditate on the fundamental fragility & frailties of mankind.

Religion being one of them... ;)


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: bobAlike on March 27, 2015, 03:47:45 PM
Asda/Walmart/Morrisons

But not Tesco? :)

They would be next on list :)


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 03:57:01 PM
Sagging.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: Junior Senior on March 27, 2015, 04:17:35 PM
HUD's and poker tracking software


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: david3103 on March 27, 2015, 04:27:16 PM
Religion.


Not sure why you were sighing about 'another thread about religion' when this was on page 1

[X] That's what I said. 






 Qc
Religion.

Absolutely this.
Root of all evil.
Pointless
Its the one thing i just see no good coming from. Those that think it brings good are simply fooling themselves and should look formtheir strength and answers elsewhere. It amazes me that even rational and intelligent people can be so religous.

Nah, can't have this.

As much as I'm an Atheist and anti religion to say no good comes out of it is massively incorrect IMO.

There lots of dedicated and selfless people who channel their good work through religion.

They'd probably be good people without religion, but even with this caveat, religion is a force for good in lots of places.



Sigh, is it really? 

I'd uninvent people writing the word 'sigh' as a rebuttle.

I'm an atheist too, but think Camel has made a good point that lots of inidviduals have used relgion in a positive way. Maybe you'd like to give an actual reason why you disagree?

Surely the burden of evidence is on the person who makes the assertion? 

PS The "sigh" wasn't to be a rebuttal in this case, more that we're getting into another discussion on religion.


FYP




Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 05:19:47 PM
Religion.


Not sure why you were sighing about 'another thread about religion' when this was on page 1

[X] That's what I said. 






 Qc
Religion.

Absolutely this.
Root of all evil.
Pointless
Its the one thing i just see no good coming from. Those that think it brings good are simply fooling themselves and should look formtheir strength and answers elsewhere. It amazes me that even rational and intelligent people can be so religous.

Nah, can't have this.

As much as I'm an Atheist and anti religion to say no good comes out of it is massively incorrect IMO.

There lots of dedicated and selfless people who channel their good work through religion.

They'd probably be good people without religion, but even with this caveat, religion is a force for good in lots of places.



Sigh, is it really? 

I'd uninvent people writing the word 'sigh' as a rebuttle.

I'm an atheist too, but think Camel has made a good point that lots of inidviduals have used relgion in a positive way. Maybe you'd like to give an actual reason why you disagree?

Surely the burden of evidence is on the person who makes the assertion? 

PS The "sigh" wasn't to be a rebuttal in this case, more that we're getting into another discussion on religion.


FYP




Sigh.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: tikay on March 27, 2015, 05:35:29 PM

Broken records.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: Kev B on March 27, 2015, 06:04:17 PM
Marmite

Bakewell tarts (disgusting tasting things)



Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: redsimon on March 27, 2015, 06:09:50 PM
Marmite

Bakewell tarts (disgusting tasting things)



Proper Bakewell tarts are lovely, the Mr Kipling type ones with icing and a cherry are I agree sickly tasting.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: Tal on March 27, 2015, 06:12:41 PM
I've thought long and hard about this and I believe I have the winner.


The word guesstimate.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: DaveShoelace on March 27, 2015, 06:16:57 PM
I'd uninvent chess

Because Tal


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: Tal on March 27, 2015, 06:17:41 PM
I'd uninvent chess

Because Tal

Shut up Meg.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: BorntoBubble on March 27, 2015, 06:36:12 PM
I've thought long and hard about this and I believe I have the winner.


The word guesstimate.

Whats wrong with this word, i love it. Also love when i got told it wasent a word, you should go and speak to that person as it seems they have already uninvented it.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: Redsgirl on March 27, 2015, 07:46:48 PM



I can't believe the fact that my dad uninvented music has gone uncommented. Music. Our earliest, most varied and expressive artform, conveying every different emotion in a ways that all humans instantly recognise.
Then he has the cheek to defend television. That guy is seriously going down in my estimation.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: Kev B on March 27, 2015, 07:48:40 PM



I can't believe the fact that my dad uninvented music has gone uncommented. Music. Our earliest, most varied and expressive artform, conveying every different emotion in a ways that all humans instantly recognise.
Then he has the cheek to defend television. That guy is seriously going down in my estimation.
[/quote

We just chose to ignore his stupidity to be fair Redsgirl. :-)


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: hector62 on March 27, 2015, 07:50:52 PM
Chewing gum.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: TightEnd on March 27, 2015, 07:52:57 PM



I can't believe the fact that my dad uninvented music has gone uncommented. Music. Our earliest, most varied and expressive artform, conveying every different emotion in a ways that all humans instantly recognise.
Then he has the cheek to defend television. That guy is seriously going down in my estimation.

i thought your Dad was the Roger Whittaker of the M69-M1 corridor?


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: tikay on March 27, 2015, 07:53:48 PM



I can't believe the fact that my dad uninvented music has gone uncommented. Music. Our earliest, most varied and expressive artform, conveying every different emotion in a ways that all humans instantly recognise.
Then he has the cheek to defend television. That guy is seriously going down in my estimation.

Music is not a problem - it is other people's music preferences that get up my nose.

I like MY musical preferences when I want it, & at my volume.

Listening to other people's musical preference sucks, as does being forced to listen to it.

We could exist in a world without music or TV quite comfortably. We'd struggle to live comfortably in a world without bridges. 

Love bridges, me.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: Kmac84 on March 27, 2015, 08:06:45 PM
Capitalism.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: redsimon on March 27, 2015, 08:24:41 PM
Capitalism.

feudalism big up north? :)


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: Redsgirl on March 27, 2015, 09:13:46 PM



I can't believe the fact that my dad uninvented music has gone uncommented. Music. Our earliest, most varied and expressive artform, conveying every different emotion in a ways that all humans instantly recognise.
Then he has the cheek to defend television. That guy is seriously going down in my estimation.

i thought your Dad was the Roger Whittaker of the M69-M1 corridor?

So did I!

(Between you and me, I think he's losing the plot.)


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: Redsgirl on March 27, 2015, 09:15:51 PM



I can't believe the fact that my dad uninvented music has gone uncommented. Music. Our earliest, most varied and expressive artform, conveying every different emotion in a ways that all humans instantly recognise.
Then he has the cheek to defend television. That guy is seriously going down in my estimation.
[/quote

We just chose to ignore his stupidity to be fair Redsgirl. :-)

Yes, probably for the best Kev.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: mikeymike on March 28, 2015, 08:02:24 PM
humans?


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kukushkin88 on March 28, 2015, 08:06:06 PM
humans?

Are fantastic, mostly.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: mikeymike on March 28, 2015, 08:15:47 PM
apart from been responsible for most of the bad things that have happened since mankind came to earth


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kukushkin88 on March 28, 2015, 08:32:54 PM
apart from been responsible for most of the bad things that have happened since mankind came to earth

Intelligence, art, literature, philosophy, kindness to list just a few reasons why the good outweighs the bad. I do understand your point but humans on the whole are just great.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: simonnatur on March 28, 2015, 08:47:35 PM
Humans suck, some don't even appreciate bakewell tarts.


Title: Re: Uninvention
Post by: kukushkin88 on March 28, 2015, 08:55:01 PM
Humans suck, some don't even appreciate bakewell tarts.

They made bakewell tarts! Thanks, missed that one :-)