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kinboshi
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Quote from: TightEnd on March 27, 2015, 01:22:45 PM
Quote from: celtic on March 27, 2015, 01:03:21 PM
Sorry, unarmed people were shot in the back because of religion, is what I meant to post.
it was "unjustifed and unjustifable" of course, but they were shot in the back in the name of public order, weren't they?...not because of their religion being catholic?
Apologies, I meant to add a ? In the second post. Changes the whole wording.
Not sure public order is a good description. But my point was to kinboshi.
I was referring to the troubles in Ireland, rather than Bloody Sunday itself.
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Quote from: david3103 on March 27, 2015, 01:21:32 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 07:36:01 AM
Religion.
Not sure why you were sighing about 'another thread about religion' when this was on page 1
[ ] That's what I said.
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Quote from: DMorgan on March 27, 2015, 12:51:37 PM
Lying
Would make poker a little different.
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Re: Uninvention
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March 27, 2015, 01:40:02 PM »
Quote from: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 01:34:16 PM
Quote from: celtic on March 27, 2015, 01:31:49 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on March 27, 2015, 01:22:45 PM
Quote from: celtic on March 27, 2015, 01:03:21 PM
Sorry, unarmed people were shot in the back because of religion, is what I meant to post.
it was "unjustifed and unjustifable" of course, but they were shot in the back in the name of public order, weren't they?...not because of their religion being catholic?
Apologies, I meant to add a ? In the second post. Changes the whole wording.
Not sure public order is a good description. But my point was to kinboshi.
I was referring to the troubles in Ireland, rather than Bloody Sunday itself.
I think clarification on what caused 'the troubles' should be sought then. As far as I was aware, it wasn't a religious war.
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Re: Uninvention
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March 27, 2015, 02:08:20 PM »
Asda/Walmart/Morrisons
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Re: Uninvention
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Reply #65 on:
March 27, 2015, 02:43:58 PM »
Quote from: celtic on March 27, 2015, 01:40:02 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 01:34:16 PM
Quote from: celtic on March 27, 2015, 01:31:49 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on March 27, 2015, 01:22:45 PM
Quote from: celtic on March 27, 2015, 01:03:21 PM
Sorry, unarmed people were shot in the back because of religion, is what I meant to post.
it was "unjustifed and unjustifable" of course, but they were shot in the back in the name of public order, weren't they?...not because of their religion being catholic?
Apologies, I meant to add a ? In the second post. Changes the whole wording.
Not sure public order is a good description. But my point was to kinboshi.
I was referring to the troubles in Ireland, rather than Bloody Sunday itself.
I think clarification on what caused 'the troubles' should be sought then. As far as I was aware, it wasn't a religious war.
It wasn't a religious war, I agree. It was political and territorial. However, it was accompanied by vast amounts of sectarianism and bigotry wrapped up in it. The Crusades were largely for other purposes than being 'religious wars', but religion fuelled and was used as a means of funding, propaganda and justifying what was done.
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Re: Uninvention
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March 27, 2015, 03:32:27 PM »
Quote from: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 02:43:58 PM
Quote from: celtic on March 27, 2015, 01:40:02 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 01:34:16 PM
Quote from: celtic on March 27, 2015, 01:31:49 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on March 27, 2015, 01:22:45 PM
Quote from: celtic on March 27, 2015, 01:03:21 PM
Sorry, unarmed people were shot in the back because of religion, is what I meant to post.
it was "unjustifed and unjustifable" of course, but they were shot in the back in the name of public order, weren't they?...not because of their religion being catholic?
Apologies, I meant to add a ? In the second post. Changes the whole wording.
Not sure public order is a good description. But my point was to kinboshi.
I was referring to the troubles in Ireland, rather than Bloody Sunday itself.
I think clarification on what caused 'the troubles' should be sought then. As far as I was aware, it wasn't a religious war.
It wasn't a religious war, I agree. It was political and territorial. However, it was accompanied by vast amounts of sectarianism and bigotry wrapped up in it. The Crusades were largely for other purposes than being 'religious wars', but religion fuelled and was used as a means of funding, propaganda and justifying what was done.
What do we blame when religion isn't the root of the war/genocide/mutilation etc ? We only have human nature then ? So humans are the denominator - some are bad, some are OK, some are 'saints' - I need you to calm down, stop obsessing about religion and meditate on the fundamental fragility & frailties of mankind.
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Re: Uninvention
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March 27, 2015, 03:37:00 PM »
Quote from: bobAlike on March 27, 2015, 02:08:20 PM
Asda/Walmart/Morrisons
But not Tesco?
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Re: Uninvention
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March 27, 2015, 03:40:02 PM »
Quote from: nirvana on March 27, 2015, 03:32:27 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 02:43:58 PM
Quote from: celtic on March 27, 2015, 01:40:02 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 01:34:16 PM
Quote from: celtic on March 27, 2015, 01:31:49 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on March 27, 2015, 01:22:45 PM
Quote from: celtic on March 27, 2015, 01:03:21 PM
Sorry, unarmed people were shot in the back because of religion, is what I meant to post.
it was "unjustifed and unjustifable" of course, but they were shot in the back in the name of public order, weren't they?...not because of their religion being catholic?
Apologies, I meant to add a ? In the second post. Changes the whole wording.
Not sure public order is a good description. But my point was to kinboshi.
I was referring to the troubles in Ireland, rather than Bloody Sunday itself.
I think clarification on what caused 'the troubles' should be sought then. As far as I was aware, it wasn't a religious war.
It wasn't a religious war, I agree. It was political and territorial. However, it was accompanied by vast amounts of sectarianism and bigotry wrapped up in it. The Crusades were largely for other purposes than being 'religious wars', but religion fuelled and was used as a means of funding, propaganda and justifying what was done.
What do we blame when religion isn't the root of the war/genocide/mutilation etc ? We only have human nature then ? So humans are the denominator - some are bad, some are OK, some are 'saints' - I need you to calm down, stop obsessing about religion and meditate on the fundamental fragility & frailties of mankind.
Religion being one of them...
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Re: Uninvention
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March 27, 2015, 03:47:45 PM »
Quote from: redsimon on March 27, 2015, 03:37:00 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on March 27, 2015, 02:08:20 PM
Asda/Walmart/Morrisons
But not Tesco?
They would be next on list
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March 27, 2015, 03:57:01 PM »
Sagging.
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Re: Uninvention
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March 27, 2015, 04:17:35 PM »
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Re: Uninvention
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March 27, 2015, 04:27:16 PM »
Quote from: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 01:35:37 PM
Quote from: david3103 on March 27, 2015, 01:21:32 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 07:36:01 AM
Religion.
Not sure why you were sighing about 'another thread about religion' when this was on page 1
[X] That's what I said.
Quote from: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 11:06:04 AM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on March 27, 2015, 10:53:58 AM
Quote from: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 10:34:03 AM
Quote from: The Camel on March 27, 2015, 10:12:23 AM
Quote from: Junior Senior on March 27, 2015, 09:15:00 AM
Quote from: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 07:36:01 AM
Religion.
Absolutely this.
Root of all evil.
Pointless
Its the one thing i just see no good coming from.
Those that think it brings good are simply fooling themselves and should look formtheir strength and answers elsewhere. It amazes me that even rational and intelligent people can be so religous.
Nah, can't have this.
As much as I'm an Atheist and anti religion to say no good comes out of it is massively incorrect IMO.
There lots of dedicated and selfless people who channel their good work through religion.
They'd probably be good people without religion, but even with this caveat, religion is a force for good in lots of places.
Sigh, is it really?
I'd uninvent people writing the word 'sigh' as a rebuttle.
I'm an atheist too, but think Camel has made a good point that lots of inidviduals have used relgion in a positive way. Maybe you'd like to give an actual reason why you disagree?
Surely the burden of evidence is on the person who makes the assertion?
PS The "sigh" wasn't to be a rebuttal in this case, more that we're getting into another discussion on religion.
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Re: Uninvention
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March 27, 2015, 05:19:47 PM »
Quote from: david3103 on March 27, 2015, 04:27:16 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 01:35:37 PM
Quote from: david3103 on March 27, 2015, 01:21:32 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 07:36:01 AM
Religion.
Not sure why you were sighing about 'another thread about religion' when this was on page 1
[X] That's what I said.
Quote from: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 11:06:04 AM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on March 27, 2015, 10:53:58 AM
Quote from: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 10:34:03 AM
Quote from: The Camel on March 27, 2015, 10:12:23 AM
Quote from: Junior Senior on March 27, 2015, 09:15:00 AM
Quote from: kinboshi on March 27, 2015, 07:36:01 AM
Religion.
Absolutely this.
Root of all evil.
Pointless
Its the one thing i just see no good coming from.
Those that think it brings good are simply fooling themselves and should look formtheir strength and answers elsewhere. It amazes me that even rational and intelligent people can be so religous.
Nah, can't have this.
As much as I'm an Atheist and anti religion to say no good comes out of it is massively incorrect IMO.
There lots of dedicated and selfless people who channel their good work through religion.
They'd probably be good people without religion, but even with this caveat, religion is a force for good in lots of places.
Sigh, is it really?
I'd uninvent people writing the word 'sigh' as a rebuttle.
I'm an atheist too, but think Camel has made a good point that lots of inidviduals have used relgion in a positive way. Maybe you'd like to give an actual reason why you disagree?
Surely the burden of evidence is on the person who makes the assertion?
PS The "sigh" wasn't to be a rebuttal in this case, more that we're getting into another discussion on religion.
FYP
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March 27, 2015, 05:35:29 PM »
Broken records.
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