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Title: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: AdamM on December 24, 2015, 07:03:20 PM
QUICKLY, CLICk OUT OF THE THREAD IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS!!

What did you give out of 10 and why?

Will post mine a bit later when I've got time to do it properly.

As I was walking out of the cinema, past a queue of people waiting for the next showing, a chap in front of me says to his lady friend "really good, I really enjoyed that." To which she replied at the top of her voice, "yeah, it was ok, but I can't believe they killed off Han Solo!"

**sound of Jaws hitting the ground the length of the queue**


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: byronkincaid on December 24, 2015, 07:10:37 PM
exactly the same plot as the first one. surely it wouldn't have been too hard to think of something different. still enjoyed it of course 7/10


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: DaveShoelace on December 24, 2015, 09:05:04 PM
QUICKLY, CLICk OUT OF THE THREAD IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS!!

What did you give out of 10 and why?

Will post mine a bit later when I've got time to do it properly.

As I was walking out of the cinema, past a queue of people waiting for the next showing, a chap in front of me says to his lady friend "really good, I really enjoyed that." To which she replied at the top of her voice, "yeah, it was ok, but I can't believe they killed off Han Solo!"

**sound of Jaws hitting the ground the length of the queue**

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg_0Smmvwbw

Like this? You poor fucker.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: DaveShoelace on December 24, 2015, 09:09:20 PM
10/10 for me

Can't understand the folks that complained it was unoriginal, yet the same guys complained that the prequels were not enough like the originals. It was predictable in the exact ways I wanted it to be.

The Finn character gave it a much funnier/more human touch than even the originals. Deffo the funniest star wars movie.

It didn't rely too much on nostalaga or the original characters. It could easily have been the Harrison Ford show, but instead they made it more about the new guys.

In fact the lack of Luke really made it, I cant wait for the next one.

The main villain was what Hayden Cristian should have been like. You could see the conflict within him, which you couldn't in Anakin Skywalker in the prequels.

Loved it, the best one of the lot IMO and I grew up with Star Wars.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: AdamM on December 24, 2015, 10:05:41 PM
I had started posting a full review detailing all the issues I had with the film, but the longer I wrote, the lower the score got and it was going to turn into an enormous post.

The short version though is 6/10 and that's with bonus nostalgia/loyalty points from an original generation fan too. Far too many regurgitated plot lines, scenes and relationships, and far too many obsurdities.

I will post specifics over time as they get mentioned by other. I'll start with Finn. I thought the character made no sense at all. Don't get me wrong, the young lad playing the part was fine. It was the character itself.

This was someone who'd been taken as a child, not even named, just given a serial number and trained to be a killing machine (but also had a job in sanitation on the new Death Star). On his very first mission though, he has some miraculous moral epiphany, and find he can't/won't kill anyone.

He rescues Roe, bundles him into a Tie fighter and they make their escape. After a brief dog fight, they are shit down and separated. Finn is devastated when he thinks Roe is dead, and when they are reunited later in the film, it's like they're long lost old friends. They spent about 30 minute in each other's company.

As well as the new found morality, he also feels fear, loyalty, devastation at injury or death of people he's known no time at all. The character makes no sense at all. One minute he's a trained killer who can handle himself with a gun turret, blaster, and even take on a Sith Lord with a light Sable (that was particularly stupid) but the next he's a rookie reluctant soldier transferred from a sanitation post on the Death Star.

Was disappointed he survived the battle with Kylo Ren.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: 77dave on December 24, 2015, 11:25:35 PM
Finn reminded me of Jar Jar


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: Longines on December 24, 2015, 11:54:27 PM
I wonder if his force awareness with the lightsaber might be explained in VIII if we find out his surname is Calrissian.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: Chompy on December 25, 2015, 10:33:27 AM
6/10 a generous score imo. So disappointed after reading the reviews.

Found Rey annoying and Harrison Ford showed more signs of life after getting shit down by a light sable than before it.

Nothing else on all week either. Roll on 8 Jan and Quentin's new masterpiece.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: booder on December 25, 2015, 10:57:31 AM
6/10 a generous score imo. So disappointed after reading the reviews.

Found Rey annoying and Harrison Ford showed more signs of life after getting shit down by a light sable than before it.

Nothing else on all week either. Roll on 8 Jan and Quentin's new masterpiece.

Well worth the wait Mr Chompy , well worth the wait.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: DMorgan on December 25, 2015, 01:57:49 PM
8/10 imo

Played it very safe with the storyline but I think that this was to be expected, it was very much a homage to the original trilogy.

I'm not a huge star wars fan but I think it was pretty entertaining. It was really important I think to make sure that it didn't seem tacky or forced (no pun intended), that it was in keeping with the feel of the original trilogy and I think it did that.

JJ Abrams now has another two films to make this trilogy his own, definitely looking forward to those.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: dwh103 on December 25, 2015, 02:28:51 PM
A 5/10 from me.

I'm not a huge Star Wars fan anyway, but I was just bored. Even ignoring the identi-plot, it just felt really poorly constructed. Boom, suddenly a Stormtrooper develops a conscience, felt they could've done so much with that. Not enough character development, and both heroes and villains were just so forgettable for me. Less said about the lightsaber fights the better.

Honestly walked out of the cinema having already forgotten what happens in the middle of the film.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: DMorgan on December 25, 2015, 02:55:19 PM
Very strong parody account, Emo Kylo Ren

https://twitter.com/KyloR3n


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: Nakor on December 25, 2015, 05:35:22 PM
8/10 imo

Played it very safe with the storyline but I think that this was to be expected, it was very much a homage to the original trilogy.

I'm not a huge star wars fan but I think it was pretty entertaining. It was really important I think to make sure that it didn't seem tacky or forced (no pun intended), that it was in keeping with the feel of the original trilogy and I think it did that.

JJ Abrams now has another two films to make this trilogy his own, definitely looking forward to those.
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Believe that's it for JJ, next one is by the director.of Fast and Furious.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: DaveShoelace on December 25, 2015, 05:39:10 PM
8/10 imo

Played it very safe with the storyline but I think that this was to be expected, it was very much a homage to the original trilogy.

I'm not a huge star wars fan but I think it was pretty entertaining. It was really important I think to make sure that it didn't seem tacky or forced (no pun intended), that it was in keeping with the feel of the original trilogy and I think it did that.

JJ Abrams now has another two films to make this trilogy his own, definitely looking forward to those.
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Believe that's it for JJ, next one is by the director.of Fast and Furious.

Yes I believe he has publically commented that he regrets not directing the next one, because he has seen the script for it and it's excellent.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: Rexas on December 25, 2015, 06:00:59 PM
I'd give it a 6/7. Lots of re-used shit, lots of nostalgia, but they did a good job of saying that the next one won't be like that by killing off Han. That scene was excellent too imo, very ambiguous, and Ren is a pretty interesting character. Don't think the film was ever going to be amazing, too much pressure on it, but I didn't leave feeling disappointed and it leaves a nice set of stories to be developed over the next two. Whoever came up with the names really needs to be sacked though. Snoke? Snake? That's nearly as bad as J.K. Rowling's Snape, which was shit.

Rey would be improved by being more like Reh.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: Chompy on December 25, 2015, 09:15:45 PM
Very strong parody account, Emo Kylo Ren

https://twitter.com/KyloR3n

Emo Kylo Ren ‏@KyloR3n  · Dec 22 
dad the wookiee used all my garnier fructis

:)


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: DMorgan on December 25, 2015, 10:24:06 PM


Believe that's it for JJ, next one is by the director.of Fast and Furious.

Thats disappointing =/


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: MANTIS01 on December 25, 2015, 11:27:23 PM
I liked it because it made me feel young again but some of the disappointments were old/senile Han Solo, old/fat Princess Leia and when the baddie took his mask off it was Lawrence Llewelyn-Bowen.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: AdamM on December 26, 2015, 11:15:49 AM
What's the deal with this new Death Star?
The first one gets blown up because any old duffer can wander in and switch off the shields.
The second gets blown up because you put the shield generator on a nearby planet but so badly guarded a bunch of teddy bears with sticks can get to it
So you build a super duper new one and go back to plan A and a novice storm trooper with a background in sanitation can sabotage it.

And I have no problem with the concept of the Death Star drawing the power for its devastating weapon from a nearby star, but the idea that it can suck up and store 100% of a star's energy is ridiculous. You know when it's charged because the sun goes dark??

Then you blow up planets in the system with the sucked up power. Why? You've just turned off their sun.

And it has its own atmosphere and climate, including trees and snow. Was it a planet that was converted to a Death Star or a Death Star converted to a planet? Either way, you're going to fly it through the Galaxy at light speed??

They want to get their health and safety sorted out before doing the big projects. Did you see that bridge Kylo Ren and Han Solo were on? No hand rails, poorly lit, very dangerous.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: nirvana on December 26, 2015, 05:51:56 PM
I had started posting a full review detailing all the issues I had with the film, but the longer I wrote, the lower the score got and it was going to turn into an enormous post.

The short version though is 6/10 and that's with bonus nostalgia/loyalty points from an original generation fan too. Far too many regurgitated plot lines, scenes and relationships, and far too many obsurdities.

I will post specifics over time as they get mentioned by other. I'll start with Finn. I thought the character made no sense at all. Don't get me wrong, the young lad playing the part was fine. It was the character itself.

This was someone who'd been taken as a child, not even named, just given a serial number and trained to be a killing machine (but also had a job in sanitation on the new Death Star). On his very first mission though, he has some miraculous moral epiphany, and find he can't/won't kill anyone.

He rescues Roe, bundles him into a Tie fighter and they make their escape. After a brief dog fight, they are shit down and separated. Finn is devastated when he thinks Roe is dead, and when they are reunited later in the film, it's like they're long lost old friends. They spent about 30 minute in each other's company.

As well as the new found morality, he also feels fear, loyalty, devastation at injury or death of people he's known no time at all. The character makes no sense at all. One minute he's a trained killer who can handle himself with a gun turret, blaster, and even take on a Sith Lord with a light Sable (that was particularly stupid) but the next he's a rookie reluctant soldier transferred from a sanitation post on the Death Star.

Was disappointed he survived the battle with Kylo Ren.

I think the whole setting it in space thing was a bit far fetched


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: AdamM on December 26, 2015, 07:42:11 PM
Are you suggesting because it's set in Space, nothing else has to make sense?



Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: nirvana on December 26, 2015, 08:58:58 PM
Are you suggesting because it's set in Space, nothing else has to make sense?



I think so, it's also the hairy monsters as well tbf


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: EvilPie on December 27, 2015, 02:10:06 PM
Are you suggesting because it's set in Space, nothing else has to make sense?



I think so, it's also the hairy monsters as well tbf

I can't see how sucking the energy out of a sun is any less believable than a little green frog man using telekinesis to lift a space ship out of a lake.



Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: AdamM on December 28, 2015, 09:15:25 AM
ALL the energy from the sun is what's the problem


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: 4KSuited on December 29, 2015, 12:49:42 AM
Whilst they were very clever in showing that the droid could only take one stair at a time - kind of like me with a gammy leg - I just couldn't get my head around the fact that it's body rotated completely independently from its head.

Meanwhile, Han Solo at 70 had all his parts in well-oiled order. Just glad we didn't see any of them.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: tonytats on December 29, 2015, 08:59:43 AM
What's the deal with this new Death Star?
The first one gets blown up because any old duffer can wander in and switch off the shields.
The second gets blown up because you put the shield generator on a nearby planet but so badly guarded a bunch of teddy bears with sticks can get to it
So you build a super duper new one and go back to plan A and a novice storm trooper with a background in sanitation can sabotage it.I'm


Brilliant description Adam very funny and sums my thoughts up on it too
Pretty poor film I thought after all the hype it was more like a rehash of the first one


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: George2Loose on December 30, 2015, 03:49:52 PM
Enjoyed it. I thought Carrie Fisher looked more like Jabba than Leia tho


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: Boba Fett on December 30, 2015, 06:47:41 PM

As well as the new found morality, he also feels fear, loyalty, devastation at injury or death of people he's known no time at all. The character makes no sense at all. One minute he's a trained killer who can handle himself with a gun turret, blaster, and even take on a Sith Lord with a light Sable (that was particularly stupid) but the next he's a rookie reluctant soldier transferred from a sanitation post on the Death Star.

Was disappointed he survived the battle with Kylo Ren.

Think he's gonna be revealed later that he can use the force otherwise him fending off Kylo with the sabre is ridiculous.  Would also explain why the stormtrooper brainwashing techniques didnt work on him.

Overall I enjoyed it, dont really wanna rate it coz Im overly biased towards and didnt even hate eps 1-3.  Lots of unanswered questions arising from it to build anticipation for the next ones.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: Omm on December 31, 2015, 04:51:37 PM
Watched the film this morning and loved it. Thought the humour was spot on, liked the fact that it was more about the new characters with the originals on the fringe. Personally I try not to over analyse films too much and take them for what they are and to me this film was a few hours of taking me away from the real world with a bit of nostalgia built in. Personally I'm not a great fan of Harrison Ford and was fine with him dying, however my wife was crying even though this is the second time she has seen the film. Would like to think humanity or human spirit is why Finn became who he was. Though Keira Knightley   ;D  done a good job as Rey.

Finally is she suppose to be Luke's daughter? Or Obi-wan? Little disagreement with the trouble.


Title: Re: OFFICIAL Star Wars The Force Awakens thread WITH SPOILERS!!!
Post by: Boba Fett on December 31, 2015, 04:57:15 PM
Finally is she suppose to be Luke's daughter? Or Obi-wan? Little disagreement with the trouble.

unknown so far, the other rumor is that she may be Han and Leia's daughter and for some reason they didnt mention it to her or didnt recognize her.  I think for certain she was hidden from Kylo when he turned on all of the new Jedi and was placed on Jakku for her own safety