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Big Sam has just pretty much said why he'd be a great candidate for the next England manager on Sky Sports - pretty much said he wants the job (without actually saying it of course!)

Yeah i seen that.

Bolton in the past has said they would let Sam leave for the England job with no hassle at all, but another Prem club will have to pay big compensation

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Personally I can't see big Sam as the next England manager. Then again I don't think there is any strong English candidates. Alan Curbishley is a reasonable shout but lacks the top level european experience. I see Stuart Pearce has put himself forward. I like the guy but maybe it's a tad to soon for him then again Van Basten is doing a good good with Holland with no previous experience.

Whilst I'm personally in favour for a home grown manager with no strong candidate I would like to see either Guus Hiddink or Big Phil as the next manager. Both of these guys are not afraid of making those big decisions during a game unlike Sven who will never sub Becks no matter how bad a game he is having.

I too would like Hiddink to be the next England manager. If it had to be an English manager I would have Sam Allardyce, the guy is different class imo.

IMO O'Neill and Bg Sam are not cut out for the job.

I would like to see someone other than a long ball merchant.

Baron,

i like ye but those that actually watched o neill`s teams knew that there was a lot more than long ball involved...he had a wide variety of tactics - dont confuse the ball just short of the front 2 as a long ball...

Big Phil Scholari has been offered the England Job.

What do you think guys?

Good appointment or a bad appointment.

Well it would help if he could speak English.

That is definitely a negative point, a very very negative point.

It would be a joke if he got the job, without being able to speak a word of English.

Bring back Adam Crozier!!!

Si

now your joking that over paid idiot who is know in charge of royal mail is a bigger waste of space than sven

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Now the question is to lay or not to lay - £260 win for a 4£ stake. I picked 3 managers and am lucky that he is one of them

easy thing to do is lay off a portion of it so that you get around 180 no matter who gets the job

its not done and dusted yet due to the fact he wasnts a 5 mil contract like erickson but the fa only want to give him 2.5 mil

Adam Crozier is one of the mst sought after Chief Executives in Britain. Hardly an idiot!

he does speak Engleesh

Ken Bates doesn't like him. Therefore, I do.

Lol - doesn't speak English?

Didn't the world say that about Benitez before Gullieme Balligue put them straight?

I'm Not happy with the proposed appointment, I just hope its a smokescreen created to allow big Sam and Stuart Pearce to finish the season with their respective clubs without the constant pressure of speculation.

bbc seen to be saying its far from a done deal. Both scolari and the portugese fa are not decided on the offer. What a pallaver to appoint a manager...

I would rather have Scholari than Allardyce and Pearce.

Well, I think it should be a woman!

GET DELIA IN FROM NAAAAARWICH!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have the best ring tone in the world on my phone. The old scooby doo theme tune, mixed in with delia smiths rant at a norwich game when she was drunk!!!!!!!

has anyone heard this

The biggest problem i have with Sven is his inability to motivate and push players when things arent going well.

 Pearce and allardyce have this ability and would get more out of the players. While scholari is a very vocal coach, the fact that he would have to pass instructions on via an interpreter means they would lose all impact and motivation.

Also during a game I want to see an england manager looking as if he REALLY cares about whats happening, and I want someone who is kicking and heading every ball just like the passionate fans on the terraces.

With regards to Sven, I agree with ya. However, I don't think you can tar Scholari with the same brush as Sven. Scholari makes Martin O'Neil look reserve on the touch line, so there will be no motivational problems. He has won the world cup (be it with the best team, but England has a very good team as well) he came runners up at the Euro Champs with Portugal 2 years later and he has won a few trophies in Brazil. You cannot honestly say that you would rather have Stuart Pearce (been in management for 1 year, mid table manager at the moment) than Scholari.

My only reservation is that I've heard Scholari can't speak English.

perhaps pearce is a bit "young" im management terms, but Big Sam must be a bloody good man manager and motivator, anyone that can take a bunch of football mercenaries and turn them into a cohesive unit who play with passion and determination has to be considered for the England job.

and given the current crop of players, he could instill some steel and determination into the squad, and turn England into serious contenders instead of serial disappointers :)

IMO Big Sam is a great manager (as mention on other threads). I feel that the FA look at him as "un-fashionable"

lol Scolari just pulled out coz of the press intrusions..classic

What a joke!

Is there still the possibilty of Big Phil & Big Sam teaming up? I think that can work.

No way in a million years would it:

a) work

and

b) Both managers wouldn't want to be in a partnership.

a) its possible, part-time basis for Big Sam (as McClaren does now).

b) agreed, both strong characters (trouble would brew between the two)

McClaren is Svens coach. Not his 2nd in charge or his assiatnt or his partner.

Now that Scolari has refused, it seems like McClaren will be the manager after the World Cup.

McClaren is now 1.8 on Betfair.

I'd prefer Malcolm McClaren to Steve McClaren.  ;goodvevil;

At least Malcolm McClaren would get the buffalo girls dancing on the outside :D

An improvement on the "wingless wonders" then  :D

PS Hope you laid off Smithy.

me and nem agree on at least one thing.

there is no way big fat sam should manage england. yes i will also agree with kev and say what he has done at bolton is fantastic, but the point is it works for bolton. you cant have the best players in england in which some of them are the best in the world in their respective positions lumping the ball as far as they can "just to make it hard" for the opposition likewise you dont want lampard and gerrard to kick lumps out of other players "to let them know you are there"

i think we missed the boat not getting hiddink. the best person to manage england who knows the english game aswell as anybody (and also the foriegn game) would be arsene wenger but there is NO WAY he will do it. with the players england have and the way which wenger gets his players playing i think we would win the world cup.

so the best avalible without question is "BIG PHIL" he is attack minded which is what we need not somebody like sven who seems scared of top class opposion or big fat sam who has never told a team to play football.

Behind Wenger and Benitez, I rate Hiddink as the 3rd best manager in the world.

We definitely missed the boat not appointing Hiddink. However Dan, I do think Sam Allardyce is a very good manager, better than Curbishley and Peacre.

i do aswell but i think he is good at what he is doing now, i dont think he would be good for england. just my opinion

i hope you listened to me any laid this off

The press start to do a job on Scolari to get a story, he drops out because of the press and they then have a story that the FA are making a shambles of it.
They just can't lose.  :D
The only losers are us England fans that will end up with someone that can't manage for toffee. Shame the press don't care whether we win trophies or not.

Interestingly, the front page of tomorrow's Sun is Steve McClaren coming clean about an affair he's been having. The press have known about this for a couple of weeks, but were waiting for the right time to pull the trigger. McClaren obviously got wind of this and has come clean to get it out of the way, possibly ahead of any big appointment he may be offered in the near future.

woooo hoooo layed Scolari at 1.4 this morning :D

McClaren having an affair - worth laying him before the news hits the streets?

Why no Mourinho Nem?

i heard he had been playing well away from home

seriously his price has drifted from 8.0 this morning to 1.4 (after scolair said no) to 4.5 now such a drift in a couple of hours can only mean nobody has a clue what the FA are going to do next

He's fourth/fifth/sixth

He did very well with Porto, in Europe, won the domestic league & cups etc.. But Porto are considered to be the 2nd biggest club in Portugal and the Portuguese league only has 2-3 teams. Benitez equalled his European/domestic achievements but he achieved them in the strongest leagues and with 2 different teams in Valencia and Liverpool.

Valencia are not even the 3rd biggest team in Spain, and to break the Barcelona/Madrid strangle hold on domestic honours with limited resources is a great achievement.

As for Mourinho and Chelsea...Well, it's not hard to win the league with the strongest squad ever assembled in the history of World Football. I'm pretty sure Ranieri would have won the league if he was given time.

What about Alex "the title will be decided on goal difference" Ferguson?

Hes one of the 4/5/6th brigade.

 :goodpost: ;iagree;

as much as i hate fergie he has to be in the top 2 or 3 managers in world football

he took small clubs in scotland and improved there lot before making aberdeen (a mid table team in a poor league) the kings of europe winning both the ECWC and the super cup beating some great teams on the way

he then takes a poor Man U whom hadn't had any success in years and who where in fact becoming a laughing stock of english football to european and domestic success although recent years have seen the london clubs climb above man u fergie has achieve much more in his carear than wenger ever will

Alan Curbishley has just resigned as Charlton's manager.

I hope he doesn't get the England job. IMO, he isn't good/strong enough.

He is currently 3.05 on Betfair.

newcastle job ??

he was down to 3s on both jobs but he was interviewed on SSN and said he didnt think he was ever in the running for england and that he would not have a club in august as after 15 years with charlton he needed a break

 :goodpost:


Regards

M

sorry M, Just heard it from the horses mouth, Curbishley has announced he wants a break and will NOT be taking any job in the summer ... but we know how these things mean bugger all in football. there is still hope :)

Did anyone see big Sam's interview after the Bolton game today, you could sense the pride in his voice and he still wants the job. He also said he believed it was now a match between him and McClaren.

I hope Sam gets it.

omg!!!! I hope not.

Unless you enjoy an Enland with Crouch and Heskey up front.

This guy is not exactly an advocate of the Beautiful Game

I am a Sheff Utd fan. Dave Bassett used to get loads of stick for buying cheap lower league players and playing a very direct game( all true). He was once asked why he hadnt signed more quality players and play 'passing' 'attractive' football. He replied that he had bid the whole 200k in his transfer budget for Gazza and Shearer and been told to f*** off. You cannot go to war with a pea shooter and I have no concerns that big Sam would use the quality players in the England squad to play a very different style to Bolton.

YES YES YES ... give it to Big Sam, I saw the interview, PASSION PASSION PASSION , he has it in abundance, Dont be so naive to think that he would adopt route one tactics for england ... he has the tactical nous and ability to make england play to their strengths ... and to see an England team play with the aggression and speed of the premiership would be a VERY welcome change for the better IMO.

I would give it to Big Sam ahead of McClaren, Pearce (rotflmfao) and Curbishley ( rotflmfao, rotflmfao).

Why not have Wenger on a P/T basis?

because he has a job to do at the Emirates Stadium!!!!

in all honesty this is a catastrophe - we let slip the best candidate in Hiddink.  Something is going on with the next best in O@neill which leaves us with mclaren or big sam - which come on is just a poor substitute.

the truth is - i do not have an answer but it is shocking that we are in this position.

Abd as for Big Sam, enough managers have shown that you can play good football on a small budget - just look at curbishley this season.  Big Sam could have adapted but he has shown that he is not interested in the beautiful game time and time again.

Are you for real. Curbishley would be another Grahma Taylor.

What is Terry Venables up to these days?

Nothing, but you have a better chance in becoming Englands next manager than him!

Would love to but too many skeletons in the cupboard for the press to dig in to! :D

sorry Nem - was heads up at the time and not concentrating!!!!  I did not mean Curbishley - he would be a nightmare, too cautious.

What i meant to say is Pardew and West Ham have shown that you can finish in the top half, get in the FA Cup Final and in Europe by playing football and not hoofing it - although I would say that since they have bought Ashton they have gone a bit more rote 1.  However i am not advocating pardew for the job, just showing that it can be done

What i am saying is that bolton do have money - they have decent midfielders in Okocha nolan campo etc but big sam plays right through them - just look at today - every ball was a punt to davies.  Do we really want england playing a game where they hoof it into Crouch.  They are too physical and at-it that works in the hustle and bustle of the prem but not on a world stage.