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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/poker/columns/story?columnist=rosenbloom_steve&id=2100457

Simon, would you like to clarify this? I don't want to criticise, firstly because I haven't seen/heard anything to suggest that the slow roll is your style, secondly I haven't heard both sides of the story and thirdly it's not in the spirit of this forum.

Furthermore I don't have a lot of time for those who call you names and ruin the comments section of your blog

I would like to hear your side of this, and whether the journalist's report is accurate

Finally, congratulations on your result, nearly a v big one.

After coming back from the Rio, Simon read the ESPN article and was so furious that he went back there to talk to the tournament director and the reporter...In 2 words, Barny, Peter Costa and Huck Seed were on the table and they all said to the tournament director that Simon took less than 2 mn to raise (after checking the nut), and he never slow rolled his cards...He just out played a great player.
He will reply to your post when he'll come back or tomorrow morning...
Mathilde

Even great players are not, it seems, immune from going out on emotional tilt after getting bust out of a tournament.

I doubt if Simon took 10 minutes to act. Now Carlo, that would be an instant decision  :D

Can we all say 'bad loser'?  ;D

There's a thread on the same article on 2+2 which has prompted a little more discussion than here. I'm not aware that Simon posts on 2+2 so, assuming its OK with Simon and Tikay, I'll copy any response he makes here onto that thread.

Sheriff

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2789361&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=14&fpart=1

Definitely a case of bad loser.

Well played Simon.  Now win the big one!!

I don't know the facts of this case - though I heard dozens of "second hand versions" - but if Simon has been attacked for improper conduct, he is most certainly welcome to defend such accusations on the Poker 425 blonde Forum if he so wished. But give him a bit of time, the fella was gutted when he busted out.

No judgement shoud be made in these matters until both sides have had a chance to put their side of the story.

Be interesting when they bump into each other  :o
Truth will out, there were others on the table so it shall become clear, either way the dwell up was a very effective tool that got one of the worlds finest players to pay off the nuts. Slow rolling? i don't agree with it but judging by Simon's reaction he is very much aggrieved and so i gotta say i believe him. As i said there were witnesses so it's hard for him to lie.
I like what Simon said to the morons that posted in his blog, i'll have 10 on Simon  ;D
Ian

Wow, Mr Charity is certainly not a happy chappy, any chance on somebody giving odds on these two settling it in the ring.

5 on the Aces to knock out the Mr Charity. That nose is just to bigger target.

If Barry Greenstein had a problem with the time taken, he should have called for the clock. That's what it is there for.

even if simon did take 5mins, i wouldnt have a problem with it in this case, he obviously thought this was the correct way to get the chips off his opp,  sometimes u have to do this in order to get the last few chips they have

the only time it is slow rolling is if they are all-in and u have the stone cold nutz and take 20 min to call!!

stu

Slow rolling is taking time to turn the cards over isn't it?

no

I played 10 10 in the Gala 100 on sunday. I raised full pot to 300 (25/50 stage) and got 2 callers. Flop came 10 10 4... I check..aggresive player bets full pot 1k other player passes i think for 2 mins give stare and flat call.... turn card is a 7 ....I check...same player bets full pot 2k...I think for 2 mins and flat call big stare again ....river is a 2... I check AP is all in and I call for remaining 2k  and show my hand.

1 or 2 players on the table were critical of my play but I know this player has missed the flop and I must appear very weak to get paid....to me thats poker. I did not over dwell but I did want to trap the player to gain as much of his chips as possible. For the record he held A 7 off suit.

after your flat call, he plays poorly, his own fault he lost,

you were very lucky to get paid there,

but you were not slow rolling,you were produceing a stratagey to get all the chips off your opp,

spot on play i dont think you done anything wrong at all

if it was me i would of played the exact same

nice one for getting all his chips thats the hole point of the game to get everyones chips

and leave youself smileing

Slow rolling is taking time to turn the cards over isn't it?

Yes, you are correct, it is

 ;popcorn;

Aspades

Slow rolling definitely is...THE TIME TAKEN TO TURN OVER AND DECLARE YOUR HAND.

secondly...When two Ego`s collide in this case one large and one absolutely huge then...accidents are bound to happen!

Once again minor people wasting time majoring on minor subjects...how I love this clique sorry click...am I banned yet?
 ;sleep; ;grr;

What a load of bollox. Simon obviously knew Greenstein would lay down his second nuts if he insta raised all in so he thought about it for a few minutes to induce the call...that's good poker in anyones book.
The slowrolling clearly isn't true as all witnesses say he didn't do it.

Greenstein is a poor loser and that's tghe end of that in my book.

i cant remember the specifics so i should probably just shut up but from what i remember wasn't Barry pot committed

yeah he was BUT from his posts it seems he would have folded if Simon had moved all in instantly

slowrolling is only deemed apt at the end of the hand when all betting is done,and hands have to be turned over....

and obviously if u have the nuts and delay to say for e.g. the 2nd nuts, then obviously this would be painful to the loser and not be in the spirit of the game

BUT during a hand you can take as much time as the rules allow..isnt that poker?

another ancient post


lol


wot the heck is going on

behave


and now to our live update section where ' chris moneymaker- an unknown amateur has made the FT of this years maint event'

well said  bhoy.


no doubt about whos integrity  was questioned yet again.

live and learn   tho  !!!

??? Any reason why you bumped a two year old thread apart from malicous?

It's a subscription site on the initial link, any chance of a cut and paste? The other details are sketchy elsewhere.
That aside, the issue of getting really annoyed/vocal about people taking their time to decide in order to deceive would reaaaaaaaally get my goat if it wasn't so comical. Actually, I know people who behave the same way about a lot of speech play ('You call, it's all over', 'You should call', 'You are a donkey', I can't believe how you played that'), throwing chips about and the rattle out of the pram, screaming about ethics, professional player blah blah blah. What a total load of b)II()x. They sit down at a ********* table with the specific intention of taking your chips/money, and will happily deceive you to do so (what the hell is a bluff check raise/any kind of bet without the strongest hand, slow play etc etc) but the moment someone stretches it just slightly and they lose out to it they throw a tantrum. What the hell???? Poker is a GAME (in the technical sense of the word) and as such you can (should?) exploit all the angles you can within the rules. Otherwise, go get a desk job.
Too many prima donas in poker.  ;tracet; ;tracet; ;tracet;

ps I found myself in a similar situation when someone I hardly knew totally lost it with me in a tournament because (I was slightly steaming inside from a bad beat) I called his raise with not very good cards and flopped the nuts and took all his chips. I of course should be banned from tournament poker for ever, for calling a raise with a weak hand.

yip

mainly boredom  from 3000 runner mtts   

not sure how u construe it as malicious   , i certainly didnt put it  in the public domain.

How ridiculous!

Trumper is entitled to play his cards any way he chooses.

Greenstein doesn't ask for the clock because he wants his opponent to call and doesn't want to jeopardize this.

So he's happy with the time his opponent is taking....

but suddenly....

when he finds out he's beat....

....he's not happy with the time taken.

If you are not happy with the time being taken by your opponent CALL FOR THE CLOCK Mr. Greenstein!

If you forgo that right then don't waste our time with your results-orientated tales of woe!!!

Porty !!  ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; stop confusing me lol


oops ............ pauls pc  ;whistle;

reason no  56   . lolololol

 rotflmfao rotflmfao

The thread is around 2 years old. For reasons best known to himself, one Member decided to Bump it. That's his right, though one man does not make a clique.

Various folks use blonde Forum for different reasons. Some like Bumping threads, others pass on anecdotes or start debates, others to promote Tourneys.

This "Bump", though inexplicable to many of us, is not something we feel able to get too excited or het up about, it's entirely compliant, but just as the "Bumper" has the right to Bump, so you have the right to get grumpy.

Congrats on your recent sponsorship, by the way.

Portfolio,

Maybe I misread your intentions in quoting me from 2 years ago. To clarify, I wasn't saying "Simon T doesn't slowroll but CC does" It was a ironic comment on the time CC has been known to take to act.. he even has a smilie on here for thinking a long time named after him.

I thought it was odd you bumped this then mentioned integrity being questioned on the same day a thread appeared about CC no longer being a DtD sponsored pro.

Anyway thats how I "read" what you said.