Could Simon Trumper clarify?

[stewart]

I played 10 10 in the Gala 100 on sunday. I raised full pot to 300 (25/50 stage) and got 2 callers. Flop came 10 10 4... I check..aggresive player bets full pot 1k other player passes i think for 2 mins give stare and flat call.... turn card is a 7 ....I check...same player bets full pot 2k...I think for 2 mins and flat call big stare again ....river is a 2... I check AP is all in and I call for remaining 2k and show my hand.

1 or 2 players on the table were critical of my play but I know this player has missed the flop and I must appear very weak to get paid....to me thats poker. I did not over dwell but I did want to trap the player to gain as much of his chips as possible. For the record he held A 7 off suit.

after your flat call, he plays poorly, his own fault he lost,

you were very lucky to get paid there,

but you were not slow rolling,you were produceing a stratagey to get all the chips off your opp,

[RFC]

I played 10 10 in the Gala 100 on sunday. I raised full pot to 300 (25/50 stage) and got 2 callers. Flop came 10 10 4... I check..aggresive player bets full pot 1k other player passes i think for 2 mins give stare and flat call.... turn card is a 7 ....I check...same player bets full pot 2k...I think for 2 mins and flat call big stare again ....river is a 2... I check AP is all in and I call for remaining 2k and show my hand.

1 or 2 players on the table were critical of my play but I know this player has missed the flop and I must appear very weak to get paid....to me thats poker. I did not over dwell but I did want to trap the player to gain as much of his chips as possible. For the record he held A 7 off suit.

spot on play i dont think you done anything wrong at all

if it was me i would of played the exact same

nice one for getting all his chips thats the hole point of the game to get everyones chips

and leave youself smileing

[doubleup]

Slow rolling is taking time to turn the cards over isn't it?

Yes, you are correct, it is

[portfolio]

I doubt if Simon took 10 minutes to act. Now Carlo, that would be an instant decision 

 

[blonde17]

Slow rolling definitely is...THE TIME TAKEN TO TURN OVER AND DECLARE YOUR HAND.

secondly...When two Ego`s collide in this case one large and one absolutely huge then...accidents are bound to happen!

Once again minor people wasting time majoring on minor subjects...how I love this clique sorry click...am I banned yet?
 

[boldie]

What a load of bollox. Simon obviously knew Greenstein would lay down his second nuts if he insta raised all in so he thought about it for a few minutes to induce the call...that's good poker in anyones book.
The slowrolling clearly isn't true as all witnesses say he didn't do it.

Greenstein is a poor loser and that's tghe end of that in my book.

[bolt pp]

What a load of bollox. Simon obviously knew Greenstein would lay down his second nuts if he insta raised all in so he thought about it for a few minutes to induce the call...that's good poker in anyones book.
The slowrolling clearly isn't true as all witnesses say he didn't do it.

Greenstein is a poor loser and that's tghe end of that in my book.

i cant remember the specifics so i should probably just shut up but from what i remember wasn't Barry pot committed

[boldie]

What a load of bollox. Simon obviously knew Greenstein would lay down his second nuts if he insta raised all in so he thought about it for a few minutes to induce the call...that's good poker in anyones book.
The slowrolling clearly isn't true as all witnesses say he didn't do it.

Greenstein is a poor loser and that's tghe end of that in my book.

i cant remember the specifics so i should probably just shut up but from what i remember wasn't Barry pot committed

yeah he was BUT from his posts it seems he would have folded if Simon had moved all in instantly

[bhoywonder]

slowrolling is only deemed apt at the end of the hand when all betting is done,and hands have to be turned over....

and obviously if u have the nuts and delay to say for e.g. the 2nd nuts, then obviously this would be painful to the loser and not be in the spirit of the game

BUT during a hand you can take as much time as the rules allow..isnt that poker?

[bhoywonder]

another ancient post


lol


wot the heck is going on

behave


and now to our live update section where ' chris moneymaker- an unknown amateur has made the FT of this years maint event'

[portfolio]

slowrolling is only deemed apt at the end of the hand when all betting is done,and hands have to be turned over....

and obviously if u have the nuts and delay to say for e.g. the 2nd nuts, then obviously this would be painful to the loser and not be in the spirit of the game

BUT during a hand you can take as much time as the rules allow..isnt that poker?

well said  bhoy.


no doubt about whos integrity  was questioned yet again.

live and learn   tho  !!!

[redsimon]

slowrolling is only deemed apt at the end of the hand when all betting is done,and hands have to be turned over....

and obviously if u have the nuts and delay to say for e.g. the 2nd nuts, then obviously this would be painful to the loser and not be in the spirit of the game

BUT during a hand you can take as much time as the rules allow..isnt that poker?

well said  bhoy.


no doubt about whos integrity  was questioned yet again.live and learn   tho  !!!

Any reason why you bumped a two year old thread apart from malicous?

[fearisthekey]

It's a subscription site on the initial link, any chance of a cut and paste? The other details are sketchy elsewhere.
That aside, the issue of getting really annoyed/vocal about people taking their time to decide in order to deceive would reaaaaaaaally get my goat if it wasn't so comical. Actually, I know people who behave the same way about a lot of speech play ('You call, it's all over', 'You should call', 'You are a donkey', I can't believe how you played that'), throwing chips about and the rattle out of the pram, screaming about ethics, professional player blah blah blah. What a total load of b)II()x. They sit down at a ********* table with the specific intention of taking your chips/money, and will happily deceive you to do so (what the hell is a bluff check raise/any kind of bet without the strongest hand, slow play etc etc) but the moment someone stretches it just slightly and they lose out to it they throw a tantrum. What the hell? Poker is a GAME (in the technical sense of the word) and as such you can (should?) exploit all the angles you can within the rules. Otherwise, go get a desk job.
Too many prima donas in poker. 

[fearisthekey]

ps I found myself in a similar situation when someone I hardly knew totally lost it with me in a tournament because (I was slightly steaming inside from a bad beat) I called his raise with not very good cards and flopped the nuts and took all his chips. I of course should be banned from tournament poker for ever, for calling a raise with a weak hand.

[portfolio]

slowrolling is only deemed apt at the end of the hand when all betting is done,and hands have to be turned over....

and obviously if u have the nuts and delay to say for e.g. the 2nd nuts, then obviously this would be painful to the loser and not be in the spirit of the game

BUT during a hand you can take as much time as the rules allow..isnt that poker?

well said  bhoy.


no doubt about whos integrity  was questioned yet again.live and learn   tho  !!!

Any reason why you bumped a two year old thread apart from malicous?

yip

mainly boredom  from 3000 runner mtts   

not sure how u construe it as malicious   , i certainly didnt put it  in the public domain.