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Title: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Colchester Kev on October 18, 2008, 02:40:17 PM
2-1 in the Madrid Masters !!!


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Graham C on October 18, 2008, 02:44:00 PM
Yay for British tennis :D


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Longy on October 18, 2008, 02:58:35 PM
Go Britain.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Maxriddles on October 18, 2008, 03:27:06 PM
Well done Andy Murray.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: DaveShoelace on October 18, 2008, 06:06:36 PM
Woo, go England, Tiger Tim etc.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Longy on October 18, 2008, 06:42:41 PM
Playing Gilles Simon in the final, who just beat Nadal in the other semi. Gotta make Murray a clear fave for the final, in fact i am bit disappointed as i thought there was going to be some value in Murray against Nadal.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: thetank on October 18, 2008, 06:53:03 PM
Woo, go England, Tiger Tim etc.

+1


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Flea on October 18, 2008, 07:14:42 PM
Playing Gilles Simon in the final, who just beat Nadal in the other semi. Gotta make Murray a clear fave for the final, in fact i am bit disappointed as i thought there was going to be some value in Murray against Nadal.

Simon just beat Nadal and that makes Murray favourite (err How???).

Simon has been playing fantastic tennis this week and if Murray beats him then it'll be a hell of a victory.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: AndrewT on October 18, 2008, 07:18:18 PM
Playing Gilles Simon in the final, who just beat Nadal in the other semi. Gotta make Murray a clear fave for the final, in fact i am bit disappointed as i thought there was going to be some value in Murray against Nadal.

Simon just beat Nadal and that makes Murray favourite (err How???).

Simon has been playing fantastic tennis this week and if Murray beats him then it'll be a hell of a victory.

Simon has just had a three and a half hour match with Nadal - he'll be physically and emotionally drained, in exactly the same way as Murray was against Federer in the US Open final after a similarly draining semi-final against Nadal.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Longy on October 18, 2008, 07:27:06 PM
Playing Gilles Simon in the final, who just beat Nadal in the other semi. Gotta make Murray a clear fave for the final, in fact i am bit disappointed as i thought there was going to be some value in Murray against Nadal.

Simon just beat Nadal and that makes Murray favourite (err How???).

Simon has been playing fantastic tennis this week and if Murray beats him then it'll be a hell of a victory.

Lol no offence Flea but this is like the schoolboy arguement that if Man U draw against Newcastle and Hull beat Newcastle, then Wigan beat Hull 5-0. Wigan should beat Man U, 11 millon-0.

Simon beat an off form Nadal, this is Nadal's weakest surface. This is Murray's best surface, he is ranked higher in the world than Simon, he has just beat Federer in a lot less gruelling game played earlier in the day.

Current betfair odds:

Murray 1.33
Simon   3.9

Pretty clear fave imo.



Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: pokerfan on October 18, 2008, 07:28:53 PM
i`m going monkey on simon.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Flea on October 18, 2008, 07:37:41 PM
Playing Gilles Simon in the final, who just beat Nadal in the other semi. Gotta make Murray a clear fave for the final, in fact i am bit disappointed as i thought there was going to be some value in Murray against Nadal.

Simon just beat Nadal and that makes Murray favourite (err How???).

Simon has been playing fantastic tennis this week and if Murray beats him then it'll be a hell of a victory.

Lol no offence Flea but this is like the schoolboy arguement that if Man U draw against Newcastle and Hull beat Newcastle, then Wigan beat Hull 5-0. Wigan should beat Man U, 11 millon-0.

Simon beat an off form Nadal, this is Nadal's weakest surface. This is Murray's best surface, he is ranked higher in the world than Simon, he has just beat Federer in a lot less gruelling game played earlier in the day.

Current betfair odds:

Murray 1.33
Simon   3.9

Pretty clear fave imo.



No offence taken but what I meant was Simon is the in-form guy and has played the best tennis of his life on a surface that suits him (wasn't surprised he beat Nadal) and likewise whilst Murray is playing well I think he'll have to go some to beat Simon.

I actually think the value bet would be Simon to beat Murray (rather than the Murray to beat Nadal that you were anticipating) - I hope I'm wrong obviously but I still think Simon will win.

And in response to AndrewT, didn't Federer have an extra day before the US Open final as Murrays match was delayed (so a much bigger advantage than Murrays extra 4 hours this time).


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Teacake on October 18, 2008, 07:44:15 PM
Playing Gilles Simon in the final, who just beat Nadal in the other semi. Gotta make Murray a clear fave for the final, in fact i am bit disappointed as i thought there was going to be some value in Murray against Nadal.

Simon just beat Nadal and that makes Murray favourite (err How???).

Simon has been playing fantastic tennis this week and if Murray beats him then it'll be a hell of a victory.

Serious question.

What price will you give me on Murray ?


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Flea on October 18, 2008, 07:50:09 PM
Worse than the bookies - I'm voicing an opinion not putting money on it (unless I can get daft odds).

I want Murray to win just my head is saying Simon will just pip him (heads often wrong though).


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Colchester Kev on October 18, 2008, 08:05:50 PM
(heads often wrong though).

Head is NEVER wrong !!!


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Teacake on October 18, 2008, 08:10:59 PM
Worse than the bookies - I'm voicing an opinion not putting money on it (unless I can get daft odds).

I want Murray to win just my head is saying Simon will just pip him (heads often wrong though).

Your opinion is now officially worthless

gg, wp


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Longy on October 18, 2008, 08:25:35 PM
Playing Gilles Simon in the final, who just beat Nadal in the other semi. Gotta make Murray a clear fave for the final, in fact i am bit disappointed as i thought there was going to be some value in Murray against Nadal.

Simon just beat Nadal and that makes Murray favourite (err How???).

Simon has been playing fantastic tennis this week and if Murray beats him then it'll be a hell of a victory.

Lol no offence Flea but this is like the schoolboy arguement that if Man U draw against Newcastle and Hull beat Newcastle, then Wigan beat Hull 5-0. Wigan should beat Man U, 11 millon-0.

Simon beat an off form Nadal, this is Nadal's weakest surface. This is Murray's best surface, he is ranked higher in the world than Simon, he has just beat Federer in a lot less gruelling game played earlier in the day.

Current betfair odds:

Murray 1.33
Simon   3.9

Pretty clear fave imo.



No offence taken but what I meant was Simon is the in-form guy and has played the best tennis of his life on a surface that suits him (wasn't surprised he beat Nadal) and likewise whilst Murray is playing well I think he'll have to go some to beat Simon.

I actually think the value bet would be Simon to beat Murray (rather than the Murray to beat Nadal that you were anticipating) - I hope I'm wrong obviously but I still think Simon will win.

And in response to AndrewT, didn't Federer have an extra day before the US Open final as Murrays match was delayed (so a much bigger advantage than Murrays extra 4 hours this time).


Murray is more inform surely.

Us open finalist where he beat Nadal a lot more convincing that Simon did today, won last master series in Cincinatti and has swept all before him this tournament.

I missed the 1st set today but he was clearly the much better player in the last 2 sets against Federer who won the US and despite being on the wane is still better than Nadal on hard courts, so imo Murray had the harder semi today not withstanding it was played in Madrid.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: thetank on October 18, 2008, 08:51:23 PM
Worse than the bookies - I'm voicing an opinion not putting money on it (unless I can get daft odds).

I want Murray to win just my head is saying Simon will just pip him (heads often wrong though).

Your opinion is now officially worthless



gg, wp

My 5 pence against your 5 pence says Murray gets pumped


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Teacake on October 18, 2008, 11:16:55 PM
Worse than the bookies - I'm voicing an opinion not putting money on it (unless I can get daft odds).

I want Murray to win just my head is saying Simon will just pip him (heads often wrong though).

Your opinion is now officially worthless



gg, wp

My 5 pence against your 5 pence says Murray gets pumped

At least we have established a price.
The stake will have to be negotiated, anything less than a quid & its not worth my while   :)


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Graham C on October 19, 2008, 10:38:51 AM
At 1.33, Murry is a lay surely?  Far to short to back imo.



Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: thetank on October 19, 2008, 10:43:06 AM
My other 95 pence is laying him.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Longy on October 19, 2008, 04:49:16 PM
Well i thought Murray made hard work of that, but wp wp anyway.



Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Div on October 20, 2008, 05:04:14 PM
Well done Andy.

(http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00417/murray5_585x435_417243a.jpg)



Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: AndrewT on October 20, 2008, 05:05:47 PM
Think he'll certainly need new balls after that lot.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Scottish Dave on October 21, 2008, 10:17:42 AM
Murray isn't British, he is Scottish  ;hide;


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Longy on November 14, 2008, 03:06:54 PM
Anyone watching this match in Shanghai, 5-5 in the final set. Murray has had about 7 match point, last game lasted 15 minutes, epic stuff.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Longy on November 14, 2008, 03:13:44 PM
Wiiiiiiiiiiiiii Murray beat him again, probs favourite for the whole tourney now.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Graham C on November 14, 2008, 03:14:01 PM
Just watched the last 5 mins, great stuff.  

Fantastic for British tennis ;)


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: gatso on November 14, 2008, 03:16:28 PM
is that now 4-2 to murray this year? superb stuff


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Rod Paradise on November 14, 2008, 03:23:18 PM
Wiiiiiiiiiiiiii Murray beat him again, probs favourite for the whole tourney now.

Watched the first 2 sets - Murray seemed to be losing his temper with himself again - good that he recovered from it.

If Murray wins this now he gets a 900K bonus for winning every match - nice if you can get it.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Longy on November 14, 2008, 03:36:10 PM
is that now 4-2 to murray this year? superb stuff

4-2 lifetime record, 3-1 to Murray this year.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: kinboshi on November 14, 2008, 03:38:11 PM
Just watched the last 5 mins, great stuff.  

Fantastic for British tennis ;)

QFT


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: bolt pp on November 14, 2008, 03:43:23 PM
federa's gone, it's not a real result, he hasn't recovered from Wimbledon plus he had an injury here


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Ironside on November 14, 2008, 03:51:09 PM
great scottish hope


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Longy on November 14, 2008, 03:55:26 PM
federa's gone, it's not a real result, he hasn't recovered from Wimbledon plus he had an injury here

You may well be right about Federer, he is certainly in decline. The problem you have here Bolt, as i know you aren't Murray's biggest fan, that Murray may well be the best player in the world on hardcourts at the moment. 2 of the 4 slams are on hardcourts, you may be in for some misery in the next few years.

Remember Murray didn't have to win this game, but he did all the same.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Graham C on November 14, 2008, 04:00:09 PM
But he's on for another $1m bonus for winning them all, so there was plenty of incentive to win.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Longy on November 14, 2008, 04:03:07 PM
But he's on for another $1m bonus for winning them all, so there was plenty of incentive to win.

Yeah i understand that and i am sure $1mill is going to be pretty sweet for him. Murray is going to win enough this year and in future years for 1m to be pretty much irrelevant. Already made 3 mill this year from prizes, god know how much he gets paid in endorsements.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Graham C on November 14, 2008, 04:10:52 PM
It was only a couple of years ago he had to get the LTA to get Gilbert as a coach because he couldn't afford it, I doubt he's quite at the stage where a million doesn't mean much.  Plus, beating Federer is a bonus, bad back or no bad back.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: bolt pp on November 14, 2008, 04:11:43 PM
federa's gone, it's not a real result, he hasn't recovered from Wimbledon plus he had an injury here

You may well be right about Federer, he is certainly in decline. The problem you have here Bolt, as i know you aren't Murray's biggest fan, that Murray may well be the best player in the world on hardcourts at the moment. 2 of the 4 slams are on hardcourts, you may be in for some misery in the next few years.

Remember Murray didn't have to win this game, but he did all the same.

he is buzzing at the moment(unfortunately) ::)

Really it's not that he's scottish(no really) i just cant stand the modern day sportsman, bland, uninformed, inarticulate worried only about making sure that his PR agent to the side of the camera is appeased with another........."erm yeah basically i'm happy with the way it went and at the end of the day i can just do my best" etc, khan, hamilton and how many of the footballers you can mention are the same, people like merson and gazza just dont happen anymore, it's not allowed to have a personality on modern day sport, well pleased when khan got flattened, jumping around when it looked like hamilton had mangled it(sigh) tough times ahead for real sports fans.

what they dont get is if you actually do what you want without being overly conscious of the media and what you might be doing may not typify what is seen as being an acceptable way of being a modern day role model in sports the media will give you a bit of leeway, look at hatton, he goes out stuffs his face and gets mashed, the media have learned he's got a huge fan base and the hatton publicity machine dont really care when they picture him coming out of a club, it's just what he does, the media dont get much of a reaction and it's not so much of a story, these boys coming up today are seeing the media run the world and are shit scared to have a personality, makes sport dull!


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Jon MW on November 14, 2008, 04:18:31 PM
federa's gone, it's not a real result, he hasn't recovered from Wimbledon plus he had an injury here

You may well be right about Federer, he is certainly in decline. The problem you have here Bolt, as i know you aren't Murray's biggest fan, that Murray may well be the best player in the world on hardcourts at the moment. 2 of the 4 slams are on hardcourts, you may be in for some misery in the next few years.

Remember Murray didn't have to win this game, but he did all the same.

he is buzzing at the moment(unfortunately) ::)

Really it's not that he's scottish(no really) i just cant stand the modern day sportsman, bland, uninformed, inarticulate worried only about making sure that his PR agent to the side of the camera is appeased with another........."erm yeah basically i'm happy with the way it went and at the end of the day i can just do my best" etc, khan, hamilton and how many of the footballers you can mention are the same, people like merson and gazza just dont happen anymore, it's not allowed to have a personality on modern day sport, well pleased when khan got flattened, jumping around when it looked like hamilton had mangled it(sigh) tough times ahead for real sports fans.

what they dont get is if you actually do what you want without being overly conscious of the media and what you might be doing may not typify what is seen as being an acceptable way of being a modern day role model in sports the media will give you a bit of leeway, look at hatton, he goes out stuffs his face and gets mashed, the media have learned he's got a huge fan base and the hatton publicity machine dont really care when they picture him coming out of a club, it's just what he does, the media dont get much of a reaction and it's not so much of a story, these boys coming up today are seeing the media run the world and are shit scared to have a personality, makes sport dull!

I think you're making a mistake assuming that they're like that because of media training - in the vast majority of cases I think it's just what they're really like - they really are that dull.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: thetank on November 14, 2008, 04:39:46 PM
wtf bolt. I recommend the WWE, they'll give you a show, cut a good promo.

Seriously, who gives a toss about post match interviews.

Murray does his shit on the court ffs. Exciting tennis and an animated personality (that's right, I said the p word) that gives an open window into his stuggles with the mental side of the game.

He's good to watch play tennis. His hypothetical success, or lack thereof, as a guest at your fantasy dinner party doesn't make him a luddy.



p.s. I think you want to shag Gazza.



Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: bolt pp on November 14, 2008, 04:48:16 PM

Murray does his shit on the court ffs. Exciting tennis and an animated personality (that's right, I said the p word) that gives an open window into his stuggles with the mental side of the game.



I agree with this, the boys got talent, i thought he seemed to be an also ran a couple of years ago and was gonna have excuse after excuse, he didnt seem to have the temprement for this level but he's doing the bussiness now.

I cant help seeing a bloke like that on soccer am and when being asked: "what is maria sharapova like in real life, she must be amazing" replying(with a nervous look on his face):"erm yeah shes alright" without thinking what an absoloute tosser he is!!!!!!

with regards to gazza, i would be honoured ;D


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: kinboshi on November 14, 2008, 04:48:59 PM
Murray needs a haircut though, imo.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Teacake on November 14, 2008, 05:12:55 PM
I don't really think Murray GAF about what people think about him, that's certainly the impression he gives off when he's being interviewed by some excitable twat from Sky.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: phatbhoy on November 14, 2008, 05:50:12 PM
davydenko at 5-1 to win the whole thing is a great bet IMO. He faces a tired murray tomo who has come out and said beating Federer was like winning the tournie. Davydenko may be a little unpredictable but was outstanding yesterday. The winner of the murray davydenko match will probably face a slightly off form djokovic in the final and he has lost that killer edge in the last few big finals he has played.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Somerled on November 14, 2008, 07:11:44 PM
federa's gone, it's not a real result, he hasn't recovered from Wimbledon plus he had an injury here

You may well be right about Federer, he is certainly in decline. The problem you have here Bolt, as i know you aren't Murray's biggest fan, that Murray may well be the best player in the world on hardcourts at the moment. 2 of the 4 slams are on hardcourts, you may be in for some misery in the next few years.

Remember Murray didn't have to win this game, but he did all the same.

he is buzzing at the moment(unfortunately) ::)

Really it's not that he's scottish(no really) i just cant stand the modern day sportsman, bland, uninformed, inarticulate worried only about making sure that his PR agent to the side of the camera is appeased with another........."erm yeah basically i'm happy with the way it went and at the end of the day i can just do my best" etc, khan, hamilton and how many of the footballers you can mention are the same, people like merson and gazza just dont happen anymore, it's not allowed to have a personality on modern day sport, well pleased when khan got flattened, jumping around when it looked like hamilton had mangled it(sigh) tough times ahead for real sports fans.

what they dont get is if you actually do what you want without being overly conscious of the media and what you might be doing may not typify what is seen as being an acceptable way of being a modern day role model in sports the media will give you a bit of leeway, look at hatton, he goes out stuffs his face and gets mashed, the media have learned he's got a huge fan base and the hatton publicity machine dont really care when they picture him coming out of a club, it's just what he does, the media dont get much of a reaction and it's not so much of a story, these boys coming up today are seeing the media run the world and are shit scared to have a personality, makes sport dull!

I can assure you that Andy Murray isn't in the least bit interested in what a PR man may have to say. He simply doesn't like talking to the media. He loves playing tennis and, since July, he's been the best player in the world. His tennis is entertainment enough - he isn't there to be an entertainer off court.  Just cos he isn't a show pony doesn't make him dull.

And yes, I am biased.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: bolt pp on November 14, 2008, 07:29:10 PM
federa's gone, it's not a real result, he hasn't recovered from Wimbledon plus he had an injury here

You may well be right about Federer, he is certainly in decline. The problem you have here Bolt, as i know you aren't Murray's biggest fan, that Murray may well be the best player in the world on hardcourts at the moment. 2 of the 4 slams are on hardcourts, you may be in for some misery in the next few years.

Remember Murray didn't have to win this game, but he did all the same.

he is buzzing at the moment(unfortunately) ::)

Really it's not that he's scottish(no really) i just cant stand the modern day sportsman, bland, uninformed, inarticulate worried only about making sure that his PR agent to the side of the camera is appeased with another........."erm yeah basically i'm happy with the way it went and at the end of the day i can just do my best" etc, khan, hamilton and how many of the footballers you can mention are the same, people like merson and gazza just dont happen anymore, it's not allowed to have a personality on modern day sport, well pleased when khan got flattened, jumping around when it looked like hamilton had mangled it(sigh) tough times ahead for real sports fans.

what they dont get is if you actually do what you want without being overly conscious of the media and what you might be doing may not typify what is seen as being an acceptable way of being a modern day role model in sports the media will give you a bit of leeway, look at hatton, he goes out stuffs his face and gets mashed, the media have learned he's got a huge fan base and the hatton publicity machine dont really care when they picture him coming out of a club, it's just what he does, the media dont get much of a reaction and it's not so much of a story, these boys coming up today are seeing the media run the world and are shit scared to have a personality, makes sport dull!

I can assure you that Andy Murray isn't in the least bit interested in what a PR man may have to say. He simply doesn't like talking to the media. He loves playing tennis and, since July, he's been the best player in the world. His tennis is entertainment enough - he isn't there to be an entertainer off court.  Just cos he isn't a show pony doesn't make him dull.

And yes, I am biased.

so what your saying is that just because he always acts dull and comes across as a very dull person and is clearly the dullest person ever to have uttered succsesive words he isnt dull? ok.

refering back to his comments on maria sharapova(specifically the lacklustre way in which he refered to one of the fittest sportswomen in the world as "alright") if this boy isnt dull he's either gay or thick, stick with dull :)up


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Somerled on November 14, 2008, 08:24:47 PM
So he's either dull, or gay & thick.  rotflmfao Your logic is astounding. You'd better not watch any tennis for the next 5 years. It's going to be awfully dull. Or gay.  ;nana;


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: bolt pp on November 14, 2008, 08:31:31 PM
So he's either dull, or gay & thick.  rotflmfao Your logic is astounding. You'd better not watch any tennis for the next 5 years. It's going to be awfully dull. Or gay.  ;nana;

It's not my logic, after tanks post i was happy to accept how well he was doing and that his tennis prowess shoulnt be detracted from by his less than exuberant off court persona but after you posted so convincingly about how he isnt dull just i'm now absolutely convinced that he's a repressed homosexual with thicko tendencies who's addicted to iron bru! ::)


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Colchester Kev on November 14, 2008, 08:33:29 PM
So he's either dull, or gay & thick.  rotflmfao Your logic is astounding. You'd better not watch any tennis for the next 5 years. It's going to be awfully dull. Or gay.  ;nana;

It's not my logic, after tanks post i was happy to accept how well he was doing and that his tennis prowess shoulnt be detracted from by his less than exuberant off court persona but after you posted so convincingly about how he isnt dull just i'm now absolutely convinced that he's a repressed homosexual with thicko tendencies who's addicted to iron bru! ::)

Maybe him and Carragher are related :)


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: thetank on November 14, 2008, 08:45:27 PM
Bolt is now spelling Irn Bru half right.

He's getting gradually Gaelicised.  ;woohoo;


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Delboy on November 14, 2008, 09:17:23 PM
But he's on for another $1m bonus for winning them all, so there was plenty of incentive to win.

Yeah i understand that and i am sure $1mill is going to be pretty sweet for him. Murray is going to win enough this year and in future years for 1m to be pretty much irrelevant. Already made 3 mill this year from prizes, god know how much he gets paid in endorsements.

Andy Murray has the biggest entourage on the tour costing approx $2,5m in salaries, travel, hotels etc.

The endorsments are HUGE for the top players. A winner of a Grand Slam can expect to get double their prize money, as a bonus, from EACH of their main sponsors.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: phatbhoy on November 15, 2008, 02:44:51 PM
my davydenko tip at 5-1 looking good, might put a safety on djokovic to cover it, do you guys do this? Murray looked shattered today!


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Rod Paradise on November 15, 2008, 02:49:36 PM
federa's gone, it's not a real result, he hasn't recovered from Wimbledon plus he had an injury here

You may well be right about Federer, he is certainly in decline. The problem you have here Bolt, as i know you aren't Murray's biggest fan, that Murray may well be the best player in the world on hardcourts at the moment. 2 of the 4 slams are on hardcourts, you may be in for some misery in the next few years.

Remember Murray didn't have to win this game, but he did all the same.

he is buzzing at the moment(unfortunately) ::)

Really it's not that he's scottish(no really) i just cant stand the modern day sportsman, bland, uninformed, inarticulate worried only about making sure that his PR agent to the side of the camera is appeased with another........."erm yeah basically i'm happy with the way it went and at the end of the day i can just do my best" etc, khan, hamilton and how many of the footballers you can mention are the same, people like merson and gazza just dont happen anymore, it's not allowed to have a personality on modern day sport, well pleased when khan got flattened, jumping around when it looked like hamilton had mangled it(sigh) tough times ahead for real sports fans.

what they dont get is if you actually do what you want without being overly conscious of the media and what you might be doing may not typify what is seen as being an acceptable way of being a modern day role model in sports the media will give you a bit of leeway, look at hatton, he goes out stuffs his face and gets mashed, the media have learned he's got a huge fan base and the hatton publicity machine dont really care when they picture him coming out of a club, it's just what he does, the media dont get much of a reaction and it's not so much of a story, these boys coming up today are seeing the media run the world and are shit scared to have a personality, makes sport dull!

Right bolt - so if he was polished with the press he'd annoy you. He speaks honestly and not very well to the press & you blame PR agents? Surely if they were training him for public speaking he'd be better? He spoke straight and got slaughtered for making a joke about wanting England to lose - hardly a PR worked statement. Sounds like he's damned if he does & damned if he don't with you.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Longy on November 15, 2008, 02:50:25 PM
my davydenko tip at 5-1 looking good, might put a safety on djokovic to cover it, do you guys do this? Murray looked shattered today!

No i didn't but after watching the first few games, I thought about this tip and thought nice bet sir.


Title: Re: Murray BEATS Federer
Post by: Thekellster89 on November 18, 2008, 10:55:34 PM
lol at anyone who ever bets on any tennis match involving davydenko again