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1  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: The GUKPT Champion of Champions Event thread on: December 06, 2009, 07:17:12 PM
tbf i think id rather play asif hu in luton for my net worth than attend the jinglebellball



What is the jinglebellball?

I would most certainly appreciate an answer to my OP.  This is obviously escalating and nobody involved is happy.  I can't send PM's on here for some reason, I don't wish to say more than I already have on a public forum.


Cheers,

Woody

Fail

Given the tone of posts, appears I succeeded for what I can here.   At least I don't have to feed the "epic fail" troll.  :-)

Tell you something, I've never met you but I know you're very talented and you come across well, arguing your point without histrionics and any rudeness, respect sir

Thanks.  I am a huge supporter of the GUKPT and think Jonathon Raab has done a great job with it, there are many negative directions the casinos are taking these days, he is someone who is on our side.  I know how backwards UK casino managers can be, and while he is at the top of the poker world here, to his minders, poker is just a small but steadily profitable side of their business.
 
I don't wish to extend further negativity on the subject in a public forum lest it get picked up by press anyway without our PR pressure.  I live here, I play Grosvenor, and anything negative happening to Jon is -EV for me, so in deference and respect to him I have removed any posts containing logic.  Thankfully nobody quoted me.  I am sure there will be a meeting to discuss this further and a resolution, but blonde is not the place.
2  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: The GUKPT Champion of Champions Event thread on: December 06, 2009, 06:53:28 PM
tbf i think id rather play asif hu in luton for my net worth than attend the jinglebellball



What is the jinglebellball?

I would most certainly appreciate an answer to my OP.  This is obviously escalating and nobody involved is happy.  I can't send PM's on here for some reason, I don't wish to say more than I already have on a public forum.


Cheers,

Woody

Fail

Given the tone of posts, appears I succeeded for what I can here.   At least I don't have to feed the "epic fail" troll.  :-)
3  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: The GUKPT Champion of Champions Event thread on: December 06, 2009, 06:52:05 PM
This tournament and the others we run are run in accordance with Grosvenor Casinos rules and additional rules set out for the GUKPT.

The rules on payouts for this competition were not set out specifically, so nothing was actually changed as such, it was clarified (wrongly or rightly) on the day before play started. I have already said that with hindsight we would have made this clearer and will indeed do so for the future. If someone is considering taking legal action, then it would not be prudent for me to answer any further questions on the matter. That will be dealt with by our lawyers if and when such a legal action takes place.


I understand, cheers.  No need to debate further on public forum, I know you are a good guy.  It is not my intention to embarrass, or ride you in any way, it is simply a matter of justice for me. I hope you understand.  I know you don't come up to me or post on blonde when I play poorly (which has been the case recently) to let me know I have made a mistake so I am cognizant of this fact.

4  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: The GUKPT Champion of Champions Event thread on: December 06, 2009, 06:23:28 PM
Woody,

I have answered the majority of the points raised already with my previous answers so I will not address everything in your original two posts. I will now address the remainder of your unanswered questions and the comments you made which were not specifically questions. I will post one response per post as for some reason my browser does not let me post too much in one post without creating scrolling problems in the text entry window.

Firstly, you misinterpreted something I had said earlier in the thread and alleged that

"I am rather shocked at what happened today, and further shocked that you think that because most of the no shows are foreigners, that it is acceptable to redistribute their equity without cause or representation."

In no way did I make this inference. I simply stated how many no shows there were and clarified that many of them would have been players who were overseas or lived outside the UK. I did not in any way say of infer that 'because they are forgeigners it was OK to do this.'

I consider this allegation of yours to be totaly without substance and quite offensive.

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5  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: The GUKPT Champion of Champions Event thread on: December 06, 2009, 05:56:02 PM
tbf i think id rather play asif hu in luton for my net worth than attend the jinglebellball



What is the jinglebellball?

I would most certainly appreciate an answer to my OP.  This is obviously escalating and nobody involved is happy.  I can't send PM's on here for some reason, I don't wish to say more than I already have on a public forum.


Cheers,

Woody
6  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: The GUKPT Champion of Champions Event thread on: December 06, 2009, 06:13:49 AM
What's happening to the prizemoney won by the stacks of people that did not turn up?

Nothing, the prizepool remains the same    ....     the entrants that turned up just had a few less competitors for it.

Their stacks were left in play to be blinded out,and a fair few of them have blinded into the money positions,in fact I believe Richard Gryko is still in!!  Cheesy

Nobody has blinded their way into the money. Those who do not turn up earn no prize, will not be classified as in the money and their prizes wil go to the next placed players who are in attendance.


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7  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: The GUKPT Champion of Champions Event thread on: December 06, 2009, 05:55:54 AM
I think putting it to a vote of the players was an excellent idea.

Maybe you should have an option where you had a payout structire like 1, but everyone received £100.

Also, weighting of votes is an excellent idea.

Hat's off to Grosvenor and Blue Squirrel for the added money.

Which won't be added much longer if it gets overshadowed by a bit of detail........

Poker players love to knock, but rarely seem able to praise initiatives like this. A few years back a £100,000 Freeroll would have been a headline, now it's taken for granted.

The Directors of Grosvenor will take note.

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