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gg lads, you had a good run

FFS DUBAI YOU SPOILSPORT

OH WELL, THE MAIN REASON I POSTED THEN:

HES GOT A TITTY, ON HIS HEAD, HES GOT A TITTY, ON HIS HEAD, HES GOT A TITTY, ON HIS HEAD, HES GOT A TITTY ON HIS HEAD!

and greekstein, yes sure

[then you should make the fold regardless of odds]

well you guys can take the piss all you like. and be as sarcastic as you like but at the end of the day i got his chips in that hand. perhaps if anyone new him they could get him to come on here and actually tell us that my speechplay didnt make a difference? like someone said, he said you have aces, sigh, and then he still put his chips in the middle, obviously he either is too bad to put his read to use, or my table talk got in his head and he couldnt bare the thought of me showing him a worse hand.

Hi mate.

Just thought I'd post my opinions on this hand that has somehow become the subject of much discussion.

Firstly I wasn't aware of any "speech play" going on. At no point did you speak to me during this hand so there was nothing you said that affected my decision. The read I had that almost got me to pass was based on you talking to someone else and me over hearing.

The talking actually occurred prior to this hand even being dealt. You made one of your first raises and it got through. You said to the guy next to you that "Every time I've limped someone over there raises and I have to fold. I'm sick of it and I'm not limping again". You looked very content that your raise had got through.

The very next hand you proceed to limp under the gun so alarm bells instantly ring for me. When I look down at kings I'm already considering the high possibility that you have a monster hand before I make my 3 bet. Let me say that although AA is included in the range I put you on I'm not discounting AK, QQ and of course the unlikely other KK.

What I'm trying to say is that your speech play if you wish to call it that didn't win you my chips. It almost got me to fold a hand that I literally never pass when I'm on 30 big blinds.

I have spoken to several friends regarding this and told them that if there was ever a time I could've passed KK in this stack situation this was it. If you hadn't been talking to the other guy about never limping again and then instantly limp utg I can assure you that my chips go in without the knowing sigh that you saw from me.

If we had been deeper and you made the same "speech" then immediately limp with 72o and get me to lay down KK and show your bluff I would've thought you were some kind of poker God. The simple fact is that you nearly cost yourself those chips by talking and then playing a hand badly. You only got them because I had the 2nd best hand in poker.

If I'd been on 20k there is a good chance that I find one of my first ever passes with KK. If you show me a bluff I congratulate you and move on to the next hand. I promise you that your "table talk" didn't get in to my head. I had far more to worry about in the competent player to my immediate left who was making my life very difficult and had forced me to alter my game plan.

Given the action that had taken place I had already comitted 4200 of my 9500 total stack. It was costing me 5300 to win a pot of around 16k. If have the second best hand in poker, 3 to 1 on my money and a 5 to 1 chance of binking if you happen to have the only hand in poker that's better than mine. Believe me mate they're going in.

Don't disillusion yourself in to thinking that anything other than the cards we got dealt won you that hand because it simply isn't the case.

Cheers for reading and good luck with your future poker adventures. Hope you stick around here and join in the fun. You seem like a nice guy at the table so would be great if you decide to post more.

Matt

thanks for replying, and i understand what your saying. i dont neccessarily believe it tho, if you think you are behind hojnestly then you should make the fold regardless of odds.

i dunno whether i will be sticking around tbh i have a feeling i wont be for too long. was nice playing with you (and trapping you )

oh my

what sort of a comment is that?

well you guys can take the piss all you like. and be as sarcastic as you like but at the end of the day i got his chips in that hand. perhaps if anyone new him they could get him to come on here and actually tell us that my speechplay didnt make a difference? like someone said, he said you have aces, sigh, and then he still put his chips in the middle, obviously he either is too bad to put his read to use, or my table talk got in his head and he couldnt bare the thought of me showing him a worse hand.

Hi mate.

Just thought I'd post my opinions on this hand that has somehow become the subject of much discussion.

Firstly I wasn't aware of any "speech play" going on. At no point did you speak to me during this hand so there was nothing you said that affected my decision. The read I had that almost got me to pass was based on you talking to someone else and me over hearing.

The talking actually occurred prior to this hand even being dealt. You made one of your first raises and it got through. You said to the guy next to you that "Every time I've limped someone over there raises and I have to fold. I'm sick of it and I'm not limping again". You looked very content that your raise had got through.

The very next hand you proceed to limp under the gun so alarm bells instantly ring for me. When I look down at kings I'm already considering the high possibility that you have a monster hand before I make my 3 bet. Let me say that although AA is included in the range I put you on I'm not discounting AK, QQ and of course the unlikely other KK.

What I'm trying to say is that your speech play if you wish to call it that didn't win you my chips. It almost got me to fold a hand that I literally never pass when I'm on 30 big blinds.

I have spoken to several friends regarding this and told them that if there was ever a time I could've passed KK in this stack situation this was it. If you hadn't been talking to the other guy about never limping again and then instantly limp utg I can assure you that my chips go in without the knowing sigh that you saw from me.

If we had been deeper and you made the same "speech" then immediately limp with 72o and get me to lay down KK and show your bluff I would've thought you were some kind of poker God. The simple fact is that you nearly cost yourself those chips by talking and then playing a hand badly. You only got them because I had the 2nd best hand in poker.

If I'd been on 20k there is a good chance that I find one of my first ever passes with KK. If you show me a bluff I congratulate you and move on to the next hand. I promise you that your "table talk" didn't get in to my head. I had far more to worry about in the competent player to my immediate left who was making my life very difficult and had forced me to alter my game plan.

Given the action that had taken place I had already comitted 4200 of my 9500 total stack. It was costing me 5300 to win a pot of around 16k. If have the second best hand in poker, 3 to 1 on my money and a 5 to 1 chance of binking if you happen to have the only hand in poker that's better than mine. Believe me mate they're going in.

Don't disillusion yourself in to thinking that anything other than the cards we got dealt won you that hand because it simply isn't the case.

Cheers for reading and good luck with your future poker adventures. Hope you stick around here and join in the fun. You seem like a nice guy at the table so would be great if you decide to post more.

Matt

thanks for replying, and i understand what your saying. i dont neccessarily believe it tho, if you think you are behind hojnestly then you should make the fold regardless of odds.

i dunno whether i will be sticking around tbh i have a feeling i wont be for too long. was nice playing with you (and trapping you )

hey tightend, dont worry about me. its interesting to hear what most people are saying. just posts like the one with the ak hand on the cash table that is not neccessary.

stuart, yeah i agree its hard to fold, but perhaps if people fold them once in a while when they think they are beat they will get better, like the guy in that video did.

well you guys can take the piss all you like. and be as sarcastic as you like but at the end of the day i got his chips in that hand. perhaps if anyone new him they could get him to come on here and actually tell us that my speechplay didnt make a difference? like someone said, he said you have aces, sigh, and then he still put his chips in the middle, obviously he either is too bad to put his read to use, or my table talk got in his head and he couldnt bare the thought of me showing him a worse hand.

Ryan O'Connor limps in early position having just said before the hand "everytime I limp I get raised, I don't know why I do it"

Neil Banks raises in the cutoff with 

Matt Russell finds  on the button and 3-bets

O'Connor then re-re-raises. It appears he has the action he was looking for

Banks folds the Queens

Matt shoves, O'Connor has 

board 

"I knew I suppose, but I can't pass Kings with my stack there"

i think i played this well trapped the guy with my table talk, this tourney was good fun, sadly im out now but at least i had the chance

lol

[ ] WP

U "trapped" a guy with kings. If you probably open raise, you'd treble up and might be still in

the guy with kings should defo have folded with the action like it happened tho, i think that my junk talk was the only reason he went all in

Are you like a real person? He probably went all in cos he had a king and a king.

so if i dont talk do you not think he can think about it without me in his head. the last times i limped i folded so he should know that

Ryan O'Connor limps in early position having just said before the hand "everytime I limp I get raised, I don't know why I do it"

Neil Banks raises in the cutoff with 

Matt Russell finds  on the button and 3-bets

O'Connor then re-re-raises. It appears he has the action he was looking for

Banks folds the Queens

Matt shoves, O'Connor has 

board 

"I knew I suppose, but I can't pass Kings with my stack there"

i think i played this well trapped the guy with my table talk, this tourney was good fun, sadly im out now but at least i had the chance

lol

[ ] WP

U "trapped" a guy with kings. If you probably open raise, you'd treble up and might be still in

the guy with kings should defo have folded with the action like it happened tho, i think that my junk talk was the only reason he went all in

Ryan O'Connor limps in early position having just said before the hand "everytime I limp I get raised, I don't know why I do it"

Neil Banks raises in the cutoff with 

Matt Russell finds  on the button and 3-bets

O'Connor then re-re-raises. It appears he has the action he was looking for

Banks folds the Queens

Matt shoves, O'Connor has 

board 

"I knew I suppose, but I can't pass Kings with my stack there"

i think i played this well trapped the guy with my table talk, this tourney was good fun, sadly im out now but at least i had the chance