Thanks for the replies folks.

Basically, my thought process was as follows:

Pre flop, I feel he would raise me with A9+ and QJ+ and knowing the type of player he is I think he would probably fold most other hands here to a pot size bet, except probably Ax, 10J and possibly 910. I would never bet 5x here but can see why theres an argument for checking.

From my analysis pre, I felt I was able to narro his range to a few hands and his cr on the flop didn't really change my mind on his range. I felt my bet would force him to fold most of his range except  obv or A7 no club. The fact he looked back at his hand confirmed, in my mind, he had the  .

The only hand thats really killing me here is  7 (based on my read obv), and I'm pretty sure it must be below A9. From here, it's obv a straight forward call and a virtual flip (I think I'm like 55% or something).

I know I'm taking a big risk taking this line as he could easily have been slowplaying an overpair but I just didn't feel he'd play it like this.

Anyway, he flipped  - the result of the hand doesn't really matter, was just interested on what lines others would take. Obv this hand is based completely on my reads until the final call which is simple pot odds.  Those of you who check pre, what line do you take on the flop/turn considering he is unlikely to lump it into an unraised pot?

Playing a local live donkament with a crapshooty structure and the following hand arises. It raised a bit of discussion afterwards and I'm still not 100% sure whether I made the right decision.

We have just over 9k in chips, in the big blind, with the blinds at 200/400. It gets folded round to the small blind who limps (he has about 10k or so) and I look down at  and make it 800 more, he calls.

The flop comes  and he checks. I bet 2k and he looks back at his cards and shoves fairly quickly. Can you/ do you call here?

I have played against villain before and have known him to both check call and check raise with flush draws and my image so far has been solidish with a couple of mis timed bluffs being caught, although will often fold to my pre flop raise if he has total rubbish. If I win the hand I would be a big stack and good for final table but if I fold I'm below average and will struggle when the blinds go up (as I said before jut a cheap crapshoot, 20 min levels).

Maybe I should just check pre flop?

I'll give my thoughts and reasoning on the hand after some analysis.

cheers

This one sticks out for me most even though I didnt lose money, most of my stupid bets are similar to you guys so not gonna repeat them lol.

A few years ago I was on my first lads holiday in Tenerife, I was 17 I think. There was about 40 of us there or so and it was the usual lads holiday. There was another 10 or so of my mates arriving the day we were leaving so we decided to go meet them for a few drinks before our flight (we were due to get picked up from our hotel at 4am). Anyway, there was a bar there that sold pints of vodka redbull as strong as you want for 5 euros so we went for one of those, pretty much pure vodka. Obviously one leads to another and the next thing I remember is waking up by myself in the airport with some old woman offering me polos as she doesnt think I'll get on the plane in my current state.

About an hour later my mates arrive, finding the whole thing hilarious. They tell me I just left the room with my case and they has no idea where I was. The thing they found so funny was the fact I no longer had my case. To this day no one knows how I got to the airport, as I had no money left, or what happened to my case but the most likely explanation is that I got a taxi and paid for it by giving the driver my case. One day I'm gonna go back there and find the taxi driver wearing my clothes!

When I got home I had pretty much no summer clothes left and no money to buy any more so for a few weeks I was wearing jackets etc in mid July.

Hi, could anyone help me out with a transfer of $100-$200 to me on blonde in exchange for the same on Full Tilt? I'll send first to an established member.
Cheers

My image so far is fairly TAG. Don't really have info on opponent. I think I made a terrible sized bet on the flop. Analysis on how I played on each street and what to do next please...


GAME #1960117439: Texas Hold'em NL Tournament 2009-01-01 23:33:41
Table 243567459 (Tournament: $50 Double Stack Freezeout Buy-In: $50+$5)
Seat 1: MrTiltron ($4,495.00 in chips)
Seat 2: topsully ($14,855.00 in chips)
Seat 3: jackdraw ($4,410.00 in chips) DEALER
Seat 4: Playboy12 ($5,165.00 in chips)
Seat 5: amjann ($4,270.00 in chips)
Seat 6: twiz1 ($6,195.00 in chips)
Seat 7: soup11 ($1,242.50 in chips)
Seat 8: EDMONDCOR ($3,890.00 in chips)
Seat 9: xposed07 ($8,300.00 in chips)
Seat 10: fabuleux ($12,070.00 in chips)
Playboy12: Post SB $75.00
amjann: Post BB $150.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xposed07 [ H10]
twiz1: Call $150.00
soup11: Fold
EDMONDCOR: Fold
fabuleux: Fold
MrTiltron: Fold
topsully: Fold
jackdraw: Fold
Playboy12: Fold
amjann: Fold
twiz1: Call $525.00
*** FLOP *** [ HJ]
twiz1: Check
xposed07: Bet $1,575.00
twiz1: Call $1,575.00
*** TURN *** []
twiz1: Check
xposed07

p.s I raised to 675 pre, not sure why it isn't coming up in the hh.

I have recently gone back to STTs on a part time basis and will be putting in some serious volume in 09 so am definitely interested.

This.

A set is definately possible here but I think AQ, or maybe an overpair are more likely. I would probably shove here, not sure on the average standard of play or buy in for this tournament etc but I don't see the point in calling a raise pre if you hit the flop this hard and are gonna pass. Flatting is also ok imo and check/shoving a blank on the turn (assuming mp2 will bet the turn that is).

if you think it's a coinflip then the question is do you want to risk your tourney life at this stage in a 50/50 situation?

err, yes please, 100% of the time

+1

You've got to take your coin flips in these comps and you've got to win them.

The average stack goes up so fast that you just can't afford to miss out on an opportunity like this to dominate your table and have a chance of a nice score.

Taking one chance early on can mean you get to take on the short stacks later on without risking your tournament.

I still don't really see the point in shoving here. The way the action has gone means you can probably expect more than 1 caller which isn't really what you want. Fair enough, if it wasnt a double stack tourney then maybe and if I though it was heads up I'd call here but as it stands, you have over 70 bbs here and if your post flop game is good then you can easily build a nice stack over the next few levels playing small ball. I just don't see the point in playing double stack tournaments if you're just gonna lump it in preflop with 75 bb's against 2 or more players.

If you shove you're obv gonna get at least one caller in this spot. If they both have AK you're in great shape but this is unlikely. Theres a high possibility judging from the action that you're behind here and if you think it's a coinflip then the question is do you want to risk your tourney life at this stage in a 50/50 situation? With 75 bb theres still plently of play left so if you think you have an edge over the rest of the field I fold here and pick a better spot.

Thanks again for the input, I was thinking about this hand a lot after it was over and wasn't sure if it was spewy or not.

Looking back now I see I should have let the discussion go on a bit longer, sorry folks.

Thanks for all the responses. Obviously it's quite a tricky hand and a marginal decision to say the least. I still like my pre flop raise as I feel his range is extremely wide here. On the flop I still felt that I had the best hand against this player which is why I bet the pot. I agree that maybe I should have raised slightly less though. I found it quite tough to put him on a hand after he shoved but I knew he was an aggressive player and had the feeling he wanted to win the pot no matter what.

It wasn't a snap call by any means, I used up all the time I could analysing the hand and eventually made the call. He had  and I won the pot.

Thanks again for all your inputs, I know it was a marginal decision and against most other players I would have prob played the hand completely different but because I had noticed this players aggressiveness against blinds in preious sessions it helped me to make a reasonably good call.

Do u have any notes about his post flop play? I don't mind the re raise pre this is surely an easy call when he shoves? Flush draw ftw

From what I've seen of him he is a very aggressive player but I haven't seen him show down many hands.

Noflopshomer, do you really think reraising a player who I have noticed steal blinds at nearly every opportunity pre is that bad a play? I mean I got a hand that has some really good potential and I also got position.

Don't have the hh right now but I'll explain best I can. A new player joins the table to my right and I have a note on him stating that he attempts to steal blinds whenever he get the chance in late position. I'm not one for protecting blinds with marginal hands too much but due to this note I adjusted my play a little.

1/2 NLH, 8 players. I have approb $350 at table, villain has $200ish. Action is folded round to villain in sb who raises to $8 (as expected) and I look down and see  . I reraise to $24, villain calls. Flop comes  , villain checks, I bet $48, villain insta shaoves.

Your views on how I played it pre and what to do next please? I'll let you know how the hand played out after some discussion.

cheers

Thats what I was thinking. Surely it must be -ve to fold here in the long run

[Big question is that is Villian value betting two pair here don't think he can be given the action so its a fold.]

I'm with Alex on this one. Villian is decent, you have shown you like you hand, Villian seems to like his better. Can't see this ever being a bluff unless he is extremely tricky and unorthodox. Bigger sets are beating you and there's a couple of straights there as well though I'd imagine 89 is unlikely.

Big question is that is Villian value betting two pair here don't think he can be given the action so its a fold.

I'm just curious as to how you come to this conclusion. I'm not a cash player so a lot of other players thoughts are gonna be more accurate than mine but if you were villain and held KJ would you not value bet this? If not why? I feel that heroes set is very well hidden here and if I was said villain I would prob put in a raise with top 2.