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Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Comedy thread on 2 plus 2 about UK players
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on: April 23, 2008, 05:13:16 PM
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bluescouse is one of the best from the UK apparenty......You read it here first. Well, second.
That post was pretty uninformed, but a lot of the rest of it seems pretty spot on. Where's the comedy value? Hi Mr Shaft Sir, I'm not clear if that's aimed at the Thread Title, or my Post, but,..... Mr Kendall Sir,  It was more the thread title. As a group, the UK are pretty damned poor which was the main strand of the thread, which I'm sure you'd agree? Just look at how bad Sky, Betfair, and the now defunct Wagerworks network were for playing standards as a rough guide to our collective incompetence, or indeed just play a cash game in any UK casino. Certainly if I'm surrounded by a table of Brits, I'm not logging off anytime soon, although in fairness, I'd be moving to the next table if it contained only Russians, French, Irish and Italians. I would have said Germans as well 3 months ago, but something is going badly wrong there, and they seem to be learning at a ridiculous rate. Conversly, a table of Fins or Norwegians and you won't see me for dust. Of course you can't call every player based on where they are from, but before I have evidence to the contrary, I'll assume they adhere to their national stereotype. (this is just an opinion, not a fact  ) But the Debate was about "Online" really, or I think it was. Only a fool would accept Online Stats at face value. Some players have "records" which suggest they are well profitable, but I don't buy that at face value I'm afraid. Players operate under multiple aliases, & also "trade" Seats deep in Comps, as we both know, (a practice which Betfair seem to actively encourage). If - hypothetically - bluescouse's Online record suggests he's, say, $200,000 to the good, do we know that includes, perhaps, other aliases, or when he plays on Networks which do not have "tracking". He could be $1,000,000 up, or $500,000 down - there's just no way of knowing. I know of dozens of prominent Online players - huge names, some of them - who allow other players to use their account, & vice-versa. Well there is no way of knowing exactly how much he is up or down but Bluescouse blogs in detail about his wins and losses and all evidence suggests he's not making any of it up. The hands he blogs about are often witnessed by many people and I know for sure that he bought his house with poker winnings and has played several EPT events. At the end of 2007 he stated his aims for 2008 as "this year i want to win a £100k pot at some time as well as make more than i did this year (£155k or thereabouts)" so if you believe him, which I do, he made over £150k last year. The reason he had no bankroll left is he bought a £250k house with over half of it paid for outright and spent a lot furnishing it. Since then he lost the £25k he won late last year and around £20k borrowed money (quite likely to be money he won earlier and his parents kept safe for emergencies) and then won £10k in the last few days. At the start of 2007 he had a bankroll of £20k but had won a lot more than that overall. From all of this you can work out he's up way more than $200k.
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Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Comedy thread on 2 plus 2 about UK players
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on: April 23, 2008, 01:29:45 PM
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Goes without saying that it is the strongest certainly. All four of those players are internet pros who've made at least six figures from online poker so I don't see a need for smileys. Bluescouse was just a nice contrast against the others who are all grinders, while he is perceived (not entirely accurately) as a losing degenerate.
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Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Comedy thread on 2 plus 2 about UK players
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on: April 23, 2008, 12:47:46 PM
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bluescouse is one of the best from the UK apparenty......You read it here first. Well, second.
That post was pretty uninformed, but a lot of the rest of it seems pretty spot on. Where's the comedy value? Uninformed how? I just mentioned a few random names and included Bluescouse partially as a joke. Though I should point out he is a £130k+ lifetime winner from poker. Not sure where I mentioned thinking he was one of the best - the thread was simply asking if there are any full time internet cash pro's, bluescouse certainly qualifies. Next you'll be claiming the English football league isn't the strongest in the world....
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