ok, well after the turn the board read    , and when i checked he insta said all in... i thought for a very long time..
so many different dynamics to this hand....
can an oldish live player over play TT here or even be going crazy with AK??
most other stack sizes i am 4 bet / calling off preflop, by with this guy having me covered it was hard..
I decided to just fold to his turn shove, because i still had ok chips if i fold... and it does look like AA.
Why does he shove though???  although my hand is quite under repped, surely its face up as 88-qq?? and he should be going for 2 more streets of  value?? but W/E,

seeing as people are actually speaking in this thread, i will slipppp it in here...
can i send anyone 200 on stars for 200 on full tilt please... i will obviously send first being new to site etc..
let me know asap please guys. thanks

well others at the table included ian frazer...... LOLLLLLLL...
please seat him at every table i am at in the future

i guess  i should of 4 bet pre, but i NEVER EVER want to 4 bet fold... and with out stacks so deep it was made hard.. you say he wouldnt 5 bet jam AA or KK, but a live donk?? im sure he might??
as i said i flatted pre, and it came ... I checked and he bet  10k... into about 14k. Effective stacks at this point are about 65k ish..
I decided to just smooth call the 10k for a couple of reasons... 1, i really thought there was a good chance i was behind, 2,  if raise im never getting action from a worse hand surely? and i dont want to make it 25/30 and then fold obv!
anyways, the turn was  ... so the board readsc ..
i checked and he INSTA says all in...
WTF...  call or fold??

ok... well, i did just peel against him (hated it obv as out of pos, with possibly the worst hand)...
Anyway, the flop was  ...... i checked and he bets 10k into like 14k ish? your play here?

ill wait for a few more responses (hopefully) then i will post what i done preflop.... etc

OK, THIS IS MY FIRST 'HAND FOR ANALSIS' SO BARE WITH ME OK GUYS.

OK, THE 300 D/C AT JANUARYS GUKPT IN BRIGHTON. I HAVE HAD SOME CARDS AND GOOD SPOTS AND IM A TOP 5 CHIP COUNT WITH LIKE 75K @ 600/1200.
MY SUPER SOFT TABLE (HAD ONE GOOD PLAYER WHOM I BELIEVE IS HORNERIS ON HERE) WAS JUST BROKEN AND I MOVED TO NEW TABLE.
BEFORE I HAD EVEN TAKEN MY CHAIR THE DEALER HAD TAKEN AN ANTE FROM MY CHIP RACK AND DEALT ME IN.
I TAKE MY SEAT AND LOOK DOWN AT  (MBN)..... FOLDS TO ME AND I OPEN FOR 3100. AS SOON AS MY CHIPS GO IN, THE BUTTON ANNOUNCES RAISE. HE MAKES IT 6200!!!!!!!!!!
FOLD BACK TO ME... WHAT IS MY PLAY HERE?
REMEMBER I HAVE JUST GOT TO TABLE, THE GUY WHO IS 3 BETTING ME IS ONE OF ONLY A FEW LEFT IN TOURNEY WHO HAVE ME COVERED (30 LEFT).  OBV NO READ.. APART FROM HE HAS ME COVERED AND IS ABOUT 40 YEARS OLD! I HAVE AN IMAGE TO MOST AS LOOSE, EVEN CRAZY YOUNG AGGRO KID, BUT HAVE NEVER PLAYED A HAND OF POKER WITH VILLAIN BEFORE?
SOME OPINIONS ON THE OPTIMAL PLAY IN LIVE POKER IN THIS SITUATION BASED ON ALL INFO AVAILABLE WOULD BE APPRECIATED GUYS?
(sorry if layout etc sucks... my first thread)
Thanks

and FWIW i agree, great thread!

hmm... UL first of all.. but i disagree with some of what your saying..

you need to bare in mind, that although this time he had you beat.. he is getting it in there with hands such as   and   ... also sets..... and your not that deep.  Obviously if your deep and / or he has  you covered then the hand takes a new dynamic.
You say about going crazy on the flop with your hand, but what exactly is the conservative option?? check call flop, then check turn with what intention?? to fold if he bets again? seems extremely weak...?? maybe im wrong i dont know.. mehhhh

yeh seeing a safe turn is good advice also... checking turn, hoping UTG will bet / call off with an over pair (with or without diamond)..
I think especially with the stacks so shallow i am rasing big, making UTG commit stack on flop though...
Nice point about image though.. played with mr TK for like an hour at GUKPT Brighton... pretty new to circuit!

ok i understand that, but while in the hand, obviously you have to take into account she is in the pot... that was the point i was making..
Reading through your opening post again, i noticed you said you was checking the flop with an intention... to check raise the flop big to protect your hand etc...
I would of done exactly that. The action behind isnt sufficient  for me to deviate away from original intention.. I think some people who have posted here have actually under valued the strength of your hand.. I mean its not every limped, multi way pot you flop a flush from the BB with 93. MBN. But on the same note, it is a limped pot, and you obviously may see  .. but if that is the case.. GG UL etc..

I think UTG probably has pair and a big diamond... can he be limping UTG with   or     ?? i would of thought this is more likely at an aggro table where he is getting a rase behind a good % of the time... but   Q x have to be in his range here.. but a set is a HUGE % of his range. If, as you say, the 'pig farmer' is playing every pot, then its conceivable that he has continued in the pot with any piece, and im never too worried about him. If i am in your spot, i am raising nearly all the time i think. It does unfortunately turn your hand face up as 2 pair or (and probably) better... But, if you flat call here and it comes a blank (non diamond etc), then what will be your plan?? if you check and it gets checked around your giving free cards vs 2 players. Calling the flop and leading the turn might be ok though, but i know im raising most of the time here.
i am raising (fairly big) and IF UTG has flopped a bigger flush GG.. but i think he can definately put it in with worse here (sets, AA w/d etc etc)... and you never know, maybe the pig man stacks off  with top pair, or bare diamond.