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« on: May 22, 2006, 04:03:12 PM »

I will say that the guy in 1st position had been VERY aggressive, and his limp made me think AA KK. As for the guy who raised from the SB - no idea!

Correct fold?

-   Hand #31978484-588 at Sun5pm200-004 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
-   Powered by UltimateBet
-   Started at 21/May/06 23:30:53
-   M3boy is at seat 2 with 53240.
-   utreg is at seat 3 with 55365.
-   notsponsored is at seat 5 with 310175.
-   mecu is at seat 6 with 284885.
-   rakeemall is at seat 7 with 72490.
-   MilkMan0011 is at seat 9 with 315820.
-   The button is at seat 2.
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-   M3boy posts ante (600).
-   utreg posts ante (600).
-   notsponsored posts ante (600).
-   mecu posts ante (600).
-   rakeemall posts ante (600).
-   MilkMan0011 posts ante (600).
-   The button is moved to seat 3.
-   notsponsored posts the small blind of 3000.
-   mecu posts the big blind of 6000.
-   M3boy, at seat 2, is in this hand.
-   utreg, at seat 3, is in this hand.
-   notsponsored, at seat 5, is in this hand.
-   mecu, at seat 6, is in this hand.
-   rakeemall, at seat 7, is in this hand.
-   MilkMan0011, at seat 9, is in this hand.
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-   notsponsored is dealt:
-   mecu is dealt:
-   rakeemall is dealt:
-   MilkMan0011 is dealt:
10c   M3boy is dealt:
-   utreg is dealt:
-   notsponsored is dealt:
-   mecu is dealt:
-   rakeemall is dealt:
-   MilkMan0011 is dealt:
10s   M3boy is dealt:
-   utreg is dealt:
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-   Pre-flop:
-   charadam (obs) says "he sat with 30,000".
-   rakeemall calls.
-   MilkMan0011 folds.
-   PokerkingAAAA (obs) says "oh ok".
-   M3boy calls.
-   utreg folds.
-   notsponsored raises to 33600.
-   mecu folds.
-   rakeemall folds.
-   Tater H0 (obs) says "he shoulda busted here about 2 hours ago with  3rd pair but
-   Tater H0 (obs) says "to a check raise".
-   PokerkingAAAA (obs) says "yo tater".
-   charadam (obs) says "pokeringAAAA are you witnessing milks comeback?".
-   PokerkingAAAA (obs) says "yes i am lol".
-   charadam (obs) says "from 18,000 to 30,000 in 5 seconds".
-   M3boy folds.
-   notsponsored is returned 27600 (uncalled).
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2006, 04:13:02 PM »

with 50k i am shipping that in all day long
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2006, 04:14:12 PM »

It has to be a fold.

Your hand is not relevant whether it was the TT you had 72o or even QQ instead. You said that you believed the guy for AA or KK. This means that you can't possibly do anything other than pass regardless of how good your read was.
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2006, 04:15:29 PM »

It has to be a fold.

Your hand is not relevant whether it was the TT you had 72o or even QQ instead. You said that you believed the guy for AA or KK. This means that you can't possibly do anything other than pass regardless of how good your read was.

Hasn't they guy read for AA or KK passed though?
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2006, 04:18:50 PM »

Yes indeed he did Bongo,

The guy in the SB , I think, would have also picked up on the fact that 1st position had limped rather than raised (as he had been doing alot).

It wasnt an easy fold, but I felt I had to be behind.
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2006, 04:20:04 PM »

Oh, forgot to mention, we were down to 11 (10 make Final Table) and there was a guy on other table with only 18k
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2006, 04:23:57 PM »

looks like it was purely an outright steal from notsponsored and really is not the sort of hand you want to be gambling with. if you call then you are pot committed, if you raise then he'd call anyway. he's using his chip advantage aggressively to throw everyoe off the hand and he probably has A-x or K-x.oyu were right to fold here and wait for a better position or wait for him to knock someone else out.
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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2006, 04:27:38 PM »

My thoughts Stally

Calling was not an option for me, it was either fold or all in
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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2006, 04:29:27 PM »

Right I see now (those ultimate bet hh are more difficult to read).

I guess that you can never be wrong by folding here. There is a good chance that you are racing and you don't play that long in a decent tournament to run short on a race that is not on your terms.

I push with TT if I can get em in first here, but to call I pass.
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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2006, 05:29:45 PM »

short handed you have 10 bb's and TT, There are already 3 bb's in the pot + his raise so what if its a 55-45, stick them in
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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2006, 05:31:52 PM »

Thanks for the opinions guys...
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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2006, 05:40:40 PM »

If he's a good player his raising range will be wide here. TT's good enough surely...

If he's exceptionally tight and you know he's only got JJ+ AK+ then fold.

Nothing wrong with gambling here I think with the  overlay in the pot.

If he turns AK face up, would anyone pass?Huh?

It's nice to think you'll find a 70 30 shot or better shot soon but realistically you will be blinded and anted away before this happens. Much more likely you'll be forced into a steal with a much weaker hand.

Interested to see what others think.....

Agree hand history layout is horrible to read!
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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2006, 05:57:30 PM »

with 50k i am shipping that in all day long

i agree
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