The speeding policeman

[Royal Flush]

If there is a law which the people agree with, then it must apply to all.

Now the speed limits in this country are a joke which are ignored by most if not all the non pedantic motorway users, but this clown doing 156ish on public roads is unacceptable and he should be punished just the same as you or me, to discourage  future breaches.

Do you really think after what he has gone through he is going to do it again? He has taken far more punishment than he deserves.

[BrumBilly]

Do you really think after what he has gone through he is going to do it again?

I don't know the answer to that and putting myself in his shoes won't help as I wouldn't have done it in the first place so trying to think like him would be a bit of a non starter.


He has taken far more punishment than he deserves.

Isn't this what's being debated? I don't think he's received a fitting punishment at all. The police should be accountable to the same laws as the rest of us. A two-tier, biased, justice system just serves to perpetuate antisocial/criminal thinking/behaviour IMO.

[SupaMonkey]

@flushy, But now people are going to believe it is ok to do 156mph on the motorway. He was trained for high speed driving which is a good thing but what about other people who aren't.

[Royal Flush]

You have to take into account the individual circumstances, thats why we have courts! He is trained at high speed driving, he presents less of a danger to the public than you or i would at those speeds. Do you want the police pulled over when they are whizzing about on the job aswell? They are breaking the limit afterall!

If a trained fighter gets in a bar fight and hurts someone, he should be punished to a greater extent than a normal person as he knows full well the capability he poses in a fight. The same has to work the other way, his rule breaking is less severe because he has extensive training in breaking that rule.

He has been talked about in the media for ages, he has been hounded by the press for ages his face has been on the news constantly he has little chance of career development, i really don't see the need to punish him any further.

[BrumBilly]

When they're on duty they may well break the limit but they're not at that time breaking the law.

He wasn't on duty and had no business driving as he did. His reasoning has a childhood charm about it though which is kinda cute. It's the type of excuse a group of primary school pupils would come up with but it shouldn't cut the mustard in a court of law. Terrible judgement on his part.

[ifm]

You have to take into account the individual circumstances, thats why we have courts! He is trained at high speed driving, he presents less of a danger to the public than you or i would at those speeds.

By your reasoning then racing drivers may aswell do the same thing as the courts would be lenient.

If a trained fighter gets in a bar fight and hurts someone, he should be punished to a greater extent than a normal person as he knows full well the capability he poses in a fight. The same has to work the other way, his rule breaking is less severe because he has extensive training in breaking that rule.

Boxers do get treated more harshly, i think you get done for using offensive weapons rather than assault, GBH etc.
As the copper was off duty he was just another member of joe public with no extra priviledges.
As for being hounded and harrassed etc. GOOD!!! the courts didn't punish him so he should get grief from elsewhere instead.
I keep laughing at the practising excuse, imagine if a lapdancer was practising in a primary school playground

[bolt pp]

I keep laughing at the practising excuse, imagine if a lapdancer was practising in a primary school playground

     I like that analogy!

[BrumBilly]

That might not be as ridiculous as it sounds. They have to practice somewhere right? We need an expert opinion on this one. Where's Ironside?

[Royal Flush]

You have to take into account the individual circumstances, thats why we have courts! He is trained at high speed driving, he presents less of a danger to the public than you or i would at those speeds.

By your reasoning then racing drivers may aswell do the same thing as the courts would be lenient.

If a trained fighter gets in a bar fight and hurts someone, he should be punished to a greater extent than a normal person as he knows full well the capability he poses in a fight. The same has to work the other way, his rule breaking is less severe because he has extensive training in breaking that rule.

Boxers do get treated more harshly, i think you get done for using offensive weapons rather than assault, GBH etc.
As the copper was off duty he was just another member of joe public with no extra privileges.
As for being hounded and harrassed etc. GOOD!!! the courts didn't punish him so he should get grief from elsewhere instead.
I keep laughing at the practising excuse, imagine if a lapdancer was practising in a primary school playground

Yes exactly so if you punish someone more severely based on their skills surely you can be more lenient as-well?

A racing driver has skills at driving fast but not at driving fast on open roads. Although yes they are still less dangerous than you and me so the punishment should reflect that.

[MPOWER]

Diving Laws and attitudes are so out of date.

Look at tyres, legal tread depth is 1.6mm. Everything proves in dry weather 1.0mm tread depth (Not Legal)
will stop you alot quicker then a new tyre with  8-10mm of tread on it.

Braking in a good sports car at 62mph 120ft at 124mph 700ft.

Speed does not kill. Not being alert or having a car which is not maintained is the problem.

Your doing 150mph MPH on the Autobahn( a 2 lane dual carriageway) and Doris pulls in front of you
not looking in her Micra. Who's fault is that.

The problem with speed in this country is people in shite cars thinking  "He's speeding I'll pull out and try and kill him"
he's going too fast so it must be his fault.

I think every U.K motorist should be sent to Germany to learn how to drive. In Germany on the Autobahn (2 lane Dual Carriageway) your doing 160mph MateyBoy in his Lambo is going 190mph. In the UK you would Brake test him, In Germany you move out of the way.

The PC who has had this Drama for him and his Family for doing 160mph is Disgusting. You don't become a Police officer for the Ego or the Money.

Some moaning do gooders on this site Partner/Husband/wife/Child is about to pop to the paws I'm sure they'd be miffed
if  Mr Officer did not go above the speed limit in the early hours on the Motorway.

Regards

M

[MPOWER]

When they're on duty they may well break the limit but they're not at that time breaking the law.

He wasn't on duty and had no business driving as he did. His reasoning has a childhood charm about it though which is kinda cute. It's the type of excuse a group of primary school pupils would come up with but it shouldn't cut the mustard in a court of law. Terrible judgement on his part.

Complete >:?

Regards

M

[SupaMonkey]

Look at tyres, legal tread depth is 1.6mm. Everything proves in dry weather 1.0mm tread depth (Not Legal)
will stop you alot quicker then a new tyre with  8-10mm of tread on it.

The grooves are only there to help in wet weather.

[BrumBilly]

M.     Can't you disagree without resorting to that?

In the scenarios you use to 'support' your argument you confuse the issue of whether or not the officer in question is on or off duty.

   Some moaning do gooders on this site Partner/Husband/wife/Child is about to pop to the paws I'm sure they'd be miffed
    in Mr Officer did not go above the speed limit in the early hours on the Motorway.

How does disagreeing with you on this = being a 'moaning do gooder'?