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« on: October 03, 2006, 10:02:04 PM »

this is probably an easy one for you seasoned pros, but I'm still getting to grips with this game so grateful for your views.  Call or fold post-flop here?

MTT Table 2 12109903-14 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit 50/100
[Oct 3 21:57:08] : Hand Start.
[Oct 3 21:57:08] : Seat 1 : :: BEAR :: has $1,410
[Oct 3 21:57:08] : Seat 2 : lprb has $1,460
[Oct 3 21:57:08] : Seat 3 : winder has $1,340
[Oct 3 21:57:08] : Seat 4 : robmace425 has $2,405
[Oct 3 21:57:08] : Seat 5 : ok_computer has $1,830
[Oct 3 21:57:08] : Seat 6 : dodelijk has $1,920
[Oct 3 21:57:08] : Seat 7 : !rivers! has $1,910
[Oct 3 21:57:08] : Seat 8 : BROWNBRED has $5,390
[Oct 3 21:57:08] : Seat 9 : Claw75 has $6,410
[Oct 3 21:57:08] : dodelijk is the dealer.
[Oct 3 21:57:08] : !rivers! posted small blind.
[Oct 3 21:57:08] : BROWNBRED posted big blind.
[Oct 3 21:57:08] : Game [14] started with 9 players.
[Oct 3 21:57:08] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Oct 3 21:57:08] : Seat 9 : Claw75 has As
[Oct 3 21:57:11] : Claw75 called 100
[Oct 3 21:57:14] : :: BEAR :: folded.
[Oct 3 21:57:17] : lprb folded.
[Oct 3 21:57:19] : Stakes: 50/100 Current level: 3 Level up in: 7 min. Break in: 39 min. Players : 53
[Oct 3 21:57:23] : winder called 100
[Oct 3 21:57:23] : robmace425 folded.
[Oct 3 21:57:25] : ok_computer folded.
[Oct 3 21:57:27] : dodelijk called 100 and raised 450
[Oct 3 21:57:27] : !rivers! folded.
[Oct 3 21:57:38] : Stakes: 50/100 Current level: 3 Level up in: 7 min. Break in: 39 min. Players : 53
[Oct 3 21:57:41] : BROWNBRED called 450
[Oct 3 21:57:43] : Claw75 called 450
[Oct 3 21:57:45] : winder folded.
[Oct 3 21:57:45] : Dealing flop.
[Oct 3 21:57:45] : Board cards [three diamonds ]
[Oct 3 21:57:52] : BROWNBRED checked.
[Oct 3 21:57:54] : Claw75 checked.
[Oct 3 21:57:56] : dodelijk bet 1,370 and is All-in
[Oct 3 21:57:58] : Stakes: 50/100 Current level: 3 Level up in: 7 min. Break in: 38 min. Players : 53
[Oct 3 21:58:11] : BROWNBRED has 10 seconds to respond.
[Oct 3 21:58:14] : BROWNBRED called 1,370
[Oct 3 21:58:16] : Claw75 ........
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2006, 10:03:21 PM »

Pass. Very little you're beating here.
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2006, 10:09:12 PM »

thanks for quick response.  I did pass and it felt right at the time, but in fact I would have gone on to take the hi and the lo, which left me a bit confused about whether I might have had the odds to call.  I find it hard enough working out odds in hold em, never mind hi lo!

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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2006, 10:14:16 PM »

I think once someone else has called the all-in, you'd have to assume that at least one of them has a better lo than you. And you could easily up against a set, two pair or a big wrap for the high here.
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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2006, 10:18:49 PM »

I think you should pass pre-flop... you've got a relatively good stack, but the other players are at the stage where they are going to be lumping it in with any old rubbish. Your hand is way too marginal to be taking on people looking for a double-up. I wouldn't play this hand on the button let alone UTG.

There is a good odds calculator at twodimes.net.
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2006, 10:26:14 PM »

I think you should pass pre-flop... you've got a relatively good stack, but the other players are at the stage where they are going to be lumping it in with any old rubbish. Your hand is way too marginal to be taking on people looking for a double-up. I wouldn't play this hand on the button let alone UTG.

There is a good odds calculator at twodimes.net.

i agree
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2006, 12:51:21 AM »

Pass preflop, it's not even marginal, it's mud.
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2006, 05:44:27 AM »

Pass preflop, it's not even marginal, it's mud.

Agreed, personally I wouldn't play it at all.

If you're still trying to get to grips with the game it isn't a hand that you want to be getting involved with, you are looking far better starting hands IMO. I've been playing it for only about 18 months and while it in no way is my strong point, I still wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2006, 12:37:38 PM »

I'm bloody useless at this game but i reckon it's a goldmine if you can crack it.
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2006, 01:02:52 PM »

I'm bloody useless at this game but i reckon it's a goldmine if you can crack it.

yeah but that's mainly because you're still a useless player Smiley..

Actually Omaha isn't a tricky as people think it is, (especially cash games) you do have to be very aware of the board though..something some Hold-em players can wrap their heads around as they are used to thinking Aces are always good...
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2006, 01:13:13 PM »

 

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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2006, 04:53:00 PM »

thanks all.  Yes, I know I should have really folded this pre-flop, which is why I specifically asked for comments on the post flop play here Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2006, 06:11:36 PM »

Ok, as you have played the hand and not hit the flop in any real way, you have to check it imo. Then instafold to the all in bet!

Hope that helps a little more lol  Cheesy
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