BNP Leader cleared of race hate

[ifm]

As i have tried to explain my point was to do with this guys party gaining membership.

But explaining the reasons for joining BNP are not necessary.  BNP members are morons whatever their excuse is for joining the party.

By the same reasoning i think all labour supporters are morons.

[byronkincaid]

David Cameron seems to be more like a member of the Green Party than the Conservatives

[CelticGeezeer]

As i have tried to explain my point was to do with this guys party gaining membership.

But explaining the reasons for joining BNP are not necessary.  BNP members are morons whatever their excuse is for joining the party.

By the same reasoning i think all labour supporters are morons.

Are you trying to tell us with out saying it that you support the BNP, if not what are you going on about ?

[ifm]

LOL, where the hell did you get that from?
Her opinion is that all BNP members are morons, mine is that all labour supporters are, what has that gotta do with supporting anyone?

[CelticGeezeer]

Well the thread is about a Nazi who is cleared of inciting racial hatred by telling a crowd of skinheads "lets show immigrants the door in 2004".

You come on and say you believe in the freedom of speech.


And reply to somebody who says that "BNP members are morons"  with the statement that you think "all labour party members are morons".

All of which got me thinking but it must have just been yet another misread.


edit -misread removed

[ifm]

You don't believe in freedom of speech?

I implied that it had to be more than 1% (i think you did misread).

We are all allowed opinions on politics, i dislike labour intensely, doesn't make me a Nazi does it?
If all non Labour people are Nazi's then you should keep labour in power forever

[CelticGeezeer]

I don't vote labour, and I have no problems with the freedom of speech just the incitement of racial hatred.

[Rooky9]

The BNP do serve a purpose in politics in that they act as a bellwether as to the underlying feeling of a section of the working classes, a sector which has been completely abandoned by the mainstream political parties. If there was no BNP, the white working class who feel there is too much immigration would not feel inclined to vote and so their voices would go unheard. As it is, every time the BNP pick up some votes in an election and get some publicity we are reminded that a) there are people for whom the policies of the BNP are attractive and b) there aren't actually that many of these people in this country (because the BNP never actually get many votes which aren't kneejerk reactionary votes).

Compared to other European countries, the far right are a tiny minority in the UK. There will always be a far right party in British politics, which is entirely correct (anyone can stand on any platform in our elections). Over the years, however, the overwhelming majority of the British people have continually rejected them.

The immigration debate is nothing to do with race (which is an artificial cultural construct anyway), it's all about economics. Employers know they can pay immigrants less than native Britons and, as all major political decisions are made on the basis of 'what is good for the economy?', immigration was welcomed. The employers don't see the newcomers as 'immigrants' though (ie people different from themselves), they just view them as 'cheap labour'. Politicians did not understand/consider the cultural and societal implications of cheap labour however, and some white Britons felt as though they were abandoned by their government - that's what causes the rise of the BNP.

If the BNP growing wakes the major political parties up to the fact there is great discontent in a section of society then they can maybe address some of those issues (most of which are actually about lack of economic regeneration in poor areas and not about immigration at all), which would be a good thing.

 

[neeko]

This may be a little shallow but...

The number of good looking women in my town has doubled since the East Europeans have arrived. 

   

[CelticGeezeer]

And even nagging sounds sexy in Polish.

[thetank]

Some of the poles are dancers

[AndrewT]

This may be a little shallow but...

The number of good looking women in my town has doubled since the East Europeans have arrived. 

   

I've noticed this as well. Suddenly I don't just go to Starbucks for the coffee...

[bolt pp]

monster raving lunatic party rule!!!!!!!

[BrumBilly]

IMO Nooo Labour has done more than its fair share to incite 'racial' tension and bigotry. I find the BNP abhorrent but less dishonest than Blair and his mafia.

[tantrum]

IMO Nooo Labour has done more than its fair share to incite 'racial' tension and bigotry. I find the BNP abhorrent but less dishonest than Blair and his mafia.

can't argue with that statement....