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« Reply #135 on: January 01, 2007, 02:26:22 PM »

With close to 10xBB , I dont see them folding any PP tbh.

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I personally would not ship it with ANY pp.

I am saying, I have seen MANY people not be able to pass a PP here.

Yeah you do get utter numpty's but i think most of them are out by now.
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« Reply #136 on: January 01, 2007, 02:28:24 PM »

Probably.

Q for you James.

Lets say you have ultra reading skills (ala Peter Costa) and you are the BB with the 12k.

You know the button has pushed with J 8 o/s and the SB has called with A 5 o/s

What would be your minimum hand for pushing your 12k in?
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« Reply #137 on: January 01, 2007, 02:37:25 PM »

Ok if i could see the hands i would call with 88+ AJ+ and A8, thats the quick answer, i might change it because there is an overpot, so i may add more Ax because of the pot vs A5 but i am multi tabling now so can't really work it out.
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« Reply #138 on: January 01, 2007, 05:47:07 PM »

Ok i'll throw in my tuppence worth

I think the A5 call is pretty marginal (if I was BB I'd call), however  I certainly wouldn't be passing JJ as was suggested earlier (by Ariston I think).  So I guess there is more than one way of skinning a cat.  Despite what Ariston thinks  Wink
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« Reply #139 on: January 01, 2007, 06:41:16 PM »

Ok i read the first article which covers things to the final table and it says don't call, the reasoning for this is "i have won 6 sats so this is right" there is no actual analysis so i am still as lost as i was!

Yes Flushy my article states I am right because i won 6 sats (betfair edited that so it doesn't include sats won on other sites or for other people) and nothing else. I didn't want to write that article because winning sats is easy if you stick to that formula. I was paid plenty to write that and if you don't want to believe the system works then don't I aint bothered. If you bother to read both articles properly you will see why it isn't correct to call. I also only did that article after I had travelled the world on sat wins and decided to give up the huge events as I wasn't ready for them yet so why not share the secrets to winning seats? I shall bow to someone who doesn't play sats though and say yes its a good call, please keep making them so anyone who does play my way can keep winning the seats.
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« Reply #140 on: January 01, 2007, 06:43:16 PM »

Yes Flushy my article states I am right because i won 6 sats (betfair edited that so it doesn't include sats won on other sites or for other people) and nothing else. I didn't want to write that article because winning sats is easy if you stick to that formula. I was paid plenty to write that and if you don't want to believe the system works then don't I aint bothered. If you bother to read both articles properly you will see why it isn't correct to call. I also only did that article after I had travelled the world on sat wins and decided to give up the huge events as I wasn't ready for them yet so why not share the secrets to winning seats?

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I AM NOT DOUBTING THAT YOU ARE CORRECT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE AN EXPLANATION
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« Reply #141 on: January 01, 2007, 06:50:04 PM »

in 4000/5000 words (can't remember how many it was exactly)i basically said I am right because i have won 6 seats apparently. There is no reasoning given in the articles and no examples of people throwing seats away with calls just like the one above. If you want me to do you a mathmatical equation factoring in folding equity v position v average stack v number of seats v number of bigblinds v table image etc I will but I shall charge you the same as I did for the article Wink
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« Reply #142 on: January 01, 2007, 06:53:18 PM »

He doesn't have a seat to throw away, he has less than ave stack with 18 remaining and only 3 seats.
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« Reply #143 on: January 01, 2007, 06:58:38 PM »

in 4000/5000 words (can't remember how many it was exactly)i basically said I am right because i have won 6 seats apparently. There is no reasoning given in the articles and no examples of people throwing seats away with calls just like the one above. If you want me to do you a mathmatical equation factoring in folding equity v position v average stack v number of seats v number of bigblinds v table image etc I will but I shall charge you the same as I did for the article Wink

The 3 examples of bad calls/plays are someone calling all in 4 handed with AK and losing to AQ. A guy making a move on a T hi flop with AJ vs a set. And you stacking a guy who had QQ on a JJ8 flop vs your J8.

I would love to hear the explanation of why Ed should fold his AK, i am presuming it was 1 seat.
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« Reply #144 on: January 01, 2007, 06:59:11 PM »

Just because someone has written an article about something, doesnt make it the only way to play .... remember even Mark Strahan wrote a poker book Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #145 on: January 01, 2007, 07:01:12 PM »

ok i surrender, what would i know.

Gl in future sats guys and keep on calling (flushy from now on shall be known as Euston).
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« Reply #146 on: January 01, 2007, 07:03:13 PM »

It is a call. If you think you are better than 6-4 then you are dreaming, there are no "better" opportunities here even in a sat. If you think you are that far ahead of the field you are either on the + side of varience or an idiot. (My record in sats is better than every posters on this thread if it matters.)
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« Reply #147 on: January 01, 2007, 07:04:39 PM »

ok i surrender, what would i know.

Gl in future sats guys and keep on calling (flushy from now on shall be known as Euston).

I have been known as a station for a long long time!!!


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« Reply #148 on: January 02, 2007, 10:59:13 PM »


To be quite frank, this is a farce. Ariston, you obv have great analytical skills and i took the time to read your articles but your argument on here are poor. 

I could get lucky/outplay everyone and win 10 out of 10 major MTT's. Then I could criticise someone else's play. When they say why i could say, "well, i won, so it works- i must be right".

People thought the earth was flat once.

 WE WANT EXPLANATIONS NOT TRUMPET BLOWING
 I for one want to qualify for a major soon and advice from those that have been there and done it would be much appreciated. This is said in the good spirit of open debate.


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