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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2005, 01:59:15 PM »

to my left and yes I dealt him some monsters. what ever are you suggesting?

I actually suggested the 10% when he had 12k+ and i was down to around 3K. nice lad eh
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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2005, 02:14:02 PM »

I agree with Longy. I think the 'pro' played this fairly bad on the whole, although badly in that the standard move here is a 3x raise of your bet to (in theory) get the weaker aces calling and effectively drawing to three outs on the turn and river (if you decide to get stubborn about it and call him down, though this may have ended with an all in anyhow what with the pot size and all).

Perhaps though, he knew that you had him down as someone who was capable of big moves (had he knocked you off some hands earlier that night?), had read you as maybe ready to call him with what would normally be a routine fold, and thought it worth a gamble. Timing is everthing after all, and maybe he just thought that now is the time for him to mix it up, and not play the ABC game. In which case, fair play to the man....
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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2005, 02:17:01 PM »

I think he thought I'd go away. I'm pretty sure he had me roughly on what I had and I think he thought I'd move over and continue to carve up the softer money on the table.

gods I hate making one mistake that ruins all the hard work of the night in one go.

still, live and learn
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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2005, 08:07:11 PM »

Any chance of some details of this cash game?

Not had a chance to get to notts in a while...
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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2005, 09:13:38 PM »

who's the pro? why was he sitting in this small game?
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« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2005, 09:20:11 PM »

why was he sitting in this small game?

Because people call off their stack with AJ?  Shocked
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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2005, 10:32:09 PM »

I hate AJ in cash games for this pure reason.  If you raise it up pre flop and someone calls, they usually have you dominated.  Unless I hit my kicker and I am sure they havent (if they need one!) I proceed with extreme caution.
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« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2005, 01:01:46 AM »

Good thread Adam.  Brave to put yourself up for criticism.
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« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2005, 01:28:17 AM »

Fold. 100%.

He is announcing his hand to you with the reraise. He wants you out so he has AJ AQ or even AK. Even if he thinks he has you beat he still wants you out so you two can hammer the other two without an awful outdraw happening between you.

By reraising he was actually doing you a favour I think. He obviously did respect you.
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« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2005, 02:31:36 AM »

The fact that you could easily have an AK makes this an even worse play by our so called pro. Feedback on this has been good, and, in my opinion, pretty accurate.
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« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2005, 04:23:56 AM »

Agreed. A £20 - £30 raise would have been sufficient enough from the "pro".

Who was it?
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« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2005, 09:55:46 AM »

as I'm sure most of you know, you don't have to have been on telly to be a pro. I don't know much about the guy, other than that in 18 months I rarely play at the Gala and him not be there. 
I think the barons right, in hindsight the guy was actually doing me a favour by raising so big. should have been obvious to me to pass but, as I may have hinted in other posts, money's still a bit tight for me and, on top of the £140 I already had, a furth £100 clouded my vision as it would of given my limited bankroll a much needed boost.

and maroon, putting myself up for critisism is something I feel comfortable doing here because it's always so constructive. I've earned some respect for my game of my fellow Blondites, but if I don't work at it, my game will never be world class. this place is such a phenominal resource, we'd all be mad not to take advantage of it.

The pro was sat at the game because it's beginners night on a tuesday. It's that or a £5/£5 dealers choice game. oddly I don't recall ever seeing him at that.
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« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2005, 03:58:35 PM »


The pro was sat at the game because it's beginners night on a tuesday. It's that or a £5/£5 dealers choice game. oddly I don't recall ever seeing him at that.

game selection is a must to keep going I guess. So who is he
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« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2005, 04:36:09 PM »

I think its a bit of misconception that all "pros" are playing massive stakes. There are quite few mid/low stake grinders out there who will play all day making quite a reasonable wage over a course of time. Tho i think it would be a bit of step too far for myself to kick the job in, my stats show that over the last year with a few more hours a day put in i could have made a living playing poker. That has been playing .5/1 NL ring games (occasionally moving limits for more juicy games).
Our local pro clearly thought there was a big enough expectation in this game compared to the dealers choice game to justify playing at these limits. By the sounds of things he was probably right.
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« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2005, 05:13:06 PM »

by 'pro' adam, do you mean one of the many unemployed riff raff spivs that populate gala?  Grin

only joking, they're a lovely bunch really. Grin  Cheesy - me included!
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