What would you do?

[thelodger]

I have asked this question everywhere and it brings the very best of poker out of everyone who reads it! this is a true hand

1st hand STT

We all start with 1500 chips I hold  , I am in 4th position and limp in! as does most of the board! the flop comes  Ah All pass to me and I pass for a free card! the small blind goes all-in(1500) and is called by the BB! the pot is now 3160, I have 1480 do I call? and why or why not???

[Ironside]

if i feel i have an edge over the tavle i will pass

if i feel that the table has an edge over me i will call as i am getting good enough pot odds with the 2 all ins

if i feel that i am on a par with the table i will toss a coin and decide if i want to play with 3x the average stack at the risk of busting

[Longy]

Ok so you have 12 clean outs in theory with 2 to come so you definitley have odds to call. Yet as ironside says you have to consider how you feel you stand against the rest of the table. I am not risking my tournament life in the first level if i believe i have a substantial edge on my opponents, i will no doubt find lot better situations than this. With no edge or i think im one of the poorer players i call and pray especially if one of the stronger players is all in.

In a cash game its a no brainer you have to call.

[Royal Flush]

How does the small blind check then move in??

Anyway....against a set and top pair your only JUST gettting the odds....you should not call this in an STT. If your up against set and a lower fd then it's deffo a fold, good chance here that someone might have T8h for the open with flush draw and that hurt's you even more.



It does depend though on the payout structure and players in.

[Wardonkey]

The position you find yourself in is a very good illustration of why you don't play hands like KQ in the first 3 levels of an STT.

[thelodger]

How does the small blind check then move in??

good point! it may of been the button! I was playing 3 games, I must of been having a  any how the 2 all-in's were  and  , but I was on a royal draw a nuts flush draw and a nuts straight draw!

The buy-in is only important if you think doing the right thing should be depending on the level of game! which is a crazy notion IMHO.

[M3boy]

The position you find yourself in is a very good illustration of why you don't play hands like KQ in the first 3 levels of an STT.

And this is why he is top of the STT leader board on UTG no doubt.

[Simon Galloway]

Halfway through the first hand, exactly how are you meant to decide if you have an advantage over the field or not??

Assuming this was online, I think the site it was on would dictate.  For example, if the blinds go up every 10 hands I might decide to gamble.  If the blinds go up every 10 minutes I might well pass.

Or you could go into the fabled poker tank - think until you can identify a hand you can beat, put your opponent(s) on it and make the call! 

[ifm]

if it's a $5-$50 buyin call.
if it's a $50-$100 buyin, think for 10 seconds and call.
if it's a $100-$500 buyin, click call, run upstairs and hide in bed!!
if it's a $500+ buyin, what the hell are you doing.......you don't have ACES!!!

[TightEnd]

Halfway through the first hand, exactly how are you meant to decide if you have an advantage over the field or not??

that's his edge.

merely by analysis of screen names, avatars and locations, he determines what style to play

[Ginger]

merely by analysis of screen names, avatars and locations, he determines what style to play

Tighty, you're gonna have to help me out a bit here, I get what you are saying about the locations, but avatars and screen names

[Royal Flush]

The buy-in is only important if you think doing the right thing should be depending on the level of game! which is a crazy notion IMHO

I didn't say anything about buyin, i said payout structure.... Is it 100% to the winner, is it 70% is it 50%?

[TightEnd]

merely by analysis of screen names, avatars and locations, he determines what style to play

Tighty, you're gonna have to help me out a bit here, I get what you are saying about the locations, but avatars and screen names

it was a joke. a bad one, but a joke nonetheless

[Ginger]

PHEW!! lol, i'm glad you said that Mr End, I thought I had been missing something all this time! lol