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« on: September 12, 2008, 05:15:56 PM »

The higher the blinds are, generally the smaller my preflop raise ( I read something today from flushy that suggests that might be wrong anyway ).  So if I was 1st in , I'd normally put in 2500, and hope for a reraise from someone in late position.

Obviously I can't limp, so I want to make it large enough that UTG has to push or fold.  Did I make it too small a raise ?  15x bb seems far to much to push preflop, even with antes, or it that the way to go at these stakes ?

And once the flop came, is the push the only move ?  Is it even the correct move, or is there any way this is foldable to any action ?

My logic goes something like :  he should have called with suited connectors or something, hoping to hit.  Or maybe a pair hoping to hit trips.  Maybe AKs or AQs.

So unless he's got AJ with a dodgy preflop call, or JJ or 22 in which case good luck to him, otherwise I'm still ok.

A few weeks ago I'd see this, tut a little and just move on.  But now I'm getting paranoid.  Is it me ?


It's a turbo, there are 18 left out of 90

500/1000 Blinds 125 Ante (9 handed)

UTG+1 (t9016)
Hero (MP1) (t15025)
MP2 (t10825)
MP3 (t12944)
CO (t30180)
Button (t16910)
SB (t8625)
BB (t7793)
UTG (t7230)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, K
UTG calls t1000, 1 fold, Hero raises to t4000, 3 folds, Button calls t4000, 2 folds, UTG calls t3000

Flop: (t14625) 2, J, J (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t10900 (All-In), Button calls t10900, 1 fold

Turn: (t36425) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t36425) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t36425

I can only play micro limits at the moment coz my bankroll is pathetically shrivelled ( and I probably don't have the skills to play much higher anyway
) which is ok when the cards are falling for you, but when you're on one of those break even / losing runs it can get to be soul destroying.

The perrenial problem of the worse your luck runs, the worse you play.  So I've taken a couple of days off and come back to this. 


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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2008, 05:29:21 PM »

Looks fine to me, i might even be tempted to make it 3500 pre with kk.
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2008, 05:31:36 PM »

Looks fine to me, i might even be tempted to make it 3500 pre with kk.
^^Yup

Nothing wrong with raises getting smaller if the table is passive. Generally that's something to think about when stealing. Here you have KK and want action!!
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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2008, 05:55:05 PM »

Looks fine to me, i might even be tempted to make it 3500 pre with kk.

Way to big


Make the raise way less that please, 2.5 max
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2008, 06:00:15 PM »

Looks fine to me, i might even be tempted to make it 3500 pre with kk.

Way to big


Make the raise way less that please, 2.5 max

Level?

UTG has limped in.
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2008, 06:12:55 PM »

Looks fine to me, i might even be tempted to make it 3500 pre with kk.

Way to big


Make the raise way less that please, 2.5 max

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UTG has limped in.


oops.


3 and 3 only
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2008, 09:23:47 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2008, 10:54:35 AM »

Looks fine to me, i might even be tempted to make it 3500 pre with kk.

Way to big


Make the raise way less that please, 2.5 max

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UTG has limped in.


oops.


3 and 3 only

If you put in a smaller raise in EP with an UTG limper, aren't you pretty much guaranteed a multiway pot ?

TBH I wanted someone to reraise me, so I could get it all in preflop.

I try to sort things out pre, because I'm still pretty piss poor post flop.

If I'd stuck in a smaller preflop raise, I'd have had 12xBB left.

Coz I was OOP I swallowed deep and pushed - either I was well in front, or stuffed.  As it happened I was stuffed.

If I'd checked, should I have been able to get away from it ?
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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2008, 01:48:19 PM »

Looks fine to me, i might even be tempted to make it 3500 pre with kk.

Way to big


Make the raise way less that please, 2.5 max

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UTG has limped in.


oops.


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If you put in a smaller raise in EP with an UTG limper, aren't you pretty much guaranteed a multiway pot ?

TBH I wanted someone to reraise me, so I could get it all in preflop.

I try to sort things out pre, because I'm still pretty piss poor post flop.

If I'd stuck in a smaller preflop raise, I'd have had 12xBB left.

Coz I was OOP I swallowed deep and pushed - either I was well in front, or stuffed.  As it happened I was stuffed.

If I'd checked, should I have been able to get away from it ?

Sticking it all in postflop is completely standard. You have an overpair with less than the pot back, we aren't ever folding this.
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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2008, 02:27:24 PM »

If you put in a smaller raise in EP with an UTG limper, aren't you pretty much guaranteed a multiway pot ?

Sadly no, that is what we want though when we are short with KK.

I try to sort things out pre, because I'm still pretty piss poor post flop.

If I'd stuck in a smaller preflop raise, I'd have had 12xBB left.

There is no post flop play here.....you say it yourself you had 12BB they are always going in post.
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