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« on: September 14, 2008, 10:45:20 PM »

OK I give in I do not have the game for Sunday night tournaments.

Every week is the same scenario-------so please tell me where I am going wrong!!!

approx 200 runner comp

I manage to get to average chips with 2/3 of the field gone playing TAG poker

I now have 14,000 chips with blinds of 300/600 and a running ante of 50

Scenario 1 .......Most aggressive player with 30k stack raises again from mid position to 1600. I find a marginal hand like A 9 in late position and RR to 4200 to try to  take the pot down - Aggressive player insta shove and I pass.......

scenario 2 ......  I raise form mid/late position with another Marginal hand like K J -  the BB has me covered and shoves......... I pass

Scenario 3....... I RR the aggressive raiser with AK and he insta calls with AA.........

scenario 4 ....... I Patiently wait for premium hands that dont come and my stack dwindles.......

scenario 5 ....... I find a premium hand and pick up the blinds

Scenario 6.........dont ask......

I really struggle to play this 2 card shove poker that seems to dominate the later stages of the sunday night tournaments.


Would appreciate some advise please
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2008, 10:50:57 PM »

not really qualified to talk about it but calling more in position and schooling people postflop can work well. Amazing how bad ppl are at playing postflop, wheras most good/average players play close to optimal pre.
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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2008, 07:49:23 PM »

not really qualified to talk about it but calling more in position and schooling people postflop can work well. Amazing how bad ppl are at playing postflop, wheras most good/average players play close to optimal pre.

Would that include calling with j10 in BB to a button raise with a view to outplaying oppo on flop??
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2008, 05:15:42 PM »

not really qualified to talk about it but calling more in position and schooling people postflop can work well. Amazing how bad ppl are at playing postflop, wheras most good/average players play close to optimal pre.

with 20BB stacks?

In scenario one, you should be reshoving - not reraising. And if you reraise, it should be in order to snapcall someone really spewy who you have trapped.

As for scenario four, at the late stages of tournaments, you need to be stealing blinds or restealing over raises an awful lot.

Get aggressive - don't worry so much about busting. You should be busting more often in huge pots - and the times you win them be in great shape to destroy a tournament deep into the money.
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2008, 03:22:06 PM »


I manage to get to average chips with 2/3 of the field gone playing TAG poker

I now have 14,000 chips with blinds of 300/600 and a running ante of 50


This bit's your problem imo. You say you're average chips and seem happy about it. In my limited experience online being average isn't good enough. You need to track your stack by the blinds more than the average.

At this stage you're going to have 80 players on either desperate stack building missions or accumulation missions with their big stacks. There's going to be raises and all ins galore waiting to be taken advantage of but you can't risk it without a big hand because you're short yourself.

You need to loosen up earlier to give yourself a chance at this vital stage.
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2008, 01:21:13 AM »

Scenario 1 ....... With a 23BB stack, 3betting intending to fold to a 4bet is bad, tbh its bad in the 30BB region. This is a good stack to re-steal IP/OOP or go&go oop. If you mean the most LOOSE player at the table raises then your 3bet should be Allin. If hes just TAG then fold it bcoz his 4bet AI calling range has you crushed

scenario 2 ......  When open-raising with this stack you have to open up a ton in LP, and tighten up considerably in EP/MP. KJo is sooooo very marginal that its prob a shove w <10BBS a fold w 15-30BB stack and marginal open with 30+BBS. I would open this from the hijack at the earliest. with 15-22BBS you can't afford to raise/fold apart from if you have nits behind, so only raise hands you intend call 3bets w

Scenario 3....... If you get it in w AK against a looser calling range then who cares it's +EV. Poker is not results orientated

scenario 4 .......Read some charts on push botting. You'd be surprised how many situations are close to ATC.

scenario 5 ....... That's poker

Scenario 6.........Whats scenario 6?
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