should i could i would i

[Ironside]

get away from this?

PokerStars Game #21113309692: Tournament #113565506, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/10/11 16:20:49 ET
Table '113565506 14' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: tandwiel007 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: pepedropro (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: tehogwillie (1480 in chips)
Seat 4: Mustache54 (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: redmanron187 (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: norrit84 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: Ironside (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: bags3051 (1400 in chips)
Seat 9: ottopark1 (1630 in chips)
tehogwillie: posts small blind 10
Mustache54: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [ As]
redmanron187: calls 20
norrit84: calls 20
Ironside: raises 40 to 60
bags3051: folds
ottopark1: folds
tandwiel007: folds
pepedropro: folds
tehogwillie: folds
Mustache54: calls 40
redmanron187: calls 40
norrit84: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Mustache54: checks
redmanron187: checks
norrit84: checks
Ironside: bets 180
Mustache54: raises 180 to 360
redmanron187: folds
norrit84: folds

[thetank]

Raise more pre

After two limpers at level one, I don't know what your plan is when you are just tripling the blind.

It's inviting a 4 way pot where everybody gets a crack at your stack with implied odds of about 35 to 1.

Make it at least 100 pre imo.

[gatso]

Raise more pre

After two limpers at level one, I don't know what your plan is when you are just tripling the blind.

It's inviting a 4 way pot where everybody gets a crack at your stack with implied odds of about 35 to 1.

Make it at least 100 pre imo.

exactly this. 100 minimum, probs a touch more at this level.

there are times when it may be ok to play AA weakly pre flop, entering a pot after 2 limpers is not one of them.

don't even bother analysing this hand postflop imo, just never get in this position again and you won't have to worry about it in the future

[Bertpup]

Ship it in uberly fast.

[EvilPie]

Raise more pre

After two limpers at level one, I don't know what your plan is when you are just tripling the blind.

It's inviting a 4 way pot where everybody gets a crack at your stack with implied odds of about 35 to 1.

Make it at least 100 pre imo.

This. A nice pot raise up to 110 would be about perfect.

Unfortunately in a 4 way pot your aces might as well be any other set mining pair if you come up against any strong opposition.

Your chances of being up against jj, qq or kk are very slim because they would've raised more pre.

Fair enough you're beating a few hands that play this flop strongly but if you value your tournament life you've got to be ready to fold.

Don't get me wrong, I'm going nowhere here and all my chips go in but I'm not confident of being ahead.



Best hope is that you're up against a decent draw and even then you're not a big favourite.

[Cf]

The preflop stuff has been said...

On the flop I think I would call this. I don't see any point shoving - if he's got a 4 you're in a world of hurt. If he's got the oesd/fd then he will probably call and you're not massively ahead.

You have position on him so you can see what happens on the turn. If he leads into the turn then this'd be the part where I probably give up. If he checks, I'd probably check behind to keep the pot small.

My guess though is the diamond draw - I see a lot of people do these silly little min-raises as flush draw semi-bluffs.

[scotty2hatty]

what does everyone think about folding preflop in this spot?

[Longy]

what does everyone think about folding preflop in this spot?

I would consider that a leak.

[ChipRich]

what does everyone think about folding preflop in this spot?

I dont mind this line, probs better than ever folding on this flop.

But yeh..

Make it more pre, 100-120 is good. I usually 3x it plus the amount of limpers this early, so 5x in this instance.