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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2008, 04:48:52 PM »

p.s $1800 for that book, they couldve got a lot more Roll Eyes Grin

In all seriousness if you would just write your book i'd know how to play poker good innit?

[ ] jj is a good hand 4 way
[ ] raiser only opens with qq+ here
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2008, 02:30:18 AM »

Make it 46 here. 62 is too much.

I dont mind the bet size, you know for sure if you're beat if he re-shoves though fck it i think i'm having it on the flop the way it was played if he does cos i'm probably 5 buy-ins down already, i always re-raise pre here.

It's like turning jj into 22 playing it multi way against 3 opp, position doesnt help that much multiway with such a vunerable holding you're almost set mining with the 4th best starting hand?

I kind of take your point, though I don't really agree... Rather than a flat call turning JJ into 22, I think the reraise potentially does just that - it leaves me playing the bottom of my perceived reraising range, rather than the top of my flat calling range. So if I reraise and then get action, then it doesn't much matter whether I've got JJ or 22, cos I'm likely to need a set to continue in either case.

Obviously yes, it would have helped if both blinds hadn't come along for the ride...

I wasn't any buy-ins down at this point lol.

I understand how you're approaching it but you lose a lot of the power of the buton by flatting pre and make it tricky for yourself to know exactly where you are when the flop brings overs


huh?

unless you hit a set here being 4 handed what good is position when you're pretty much folding to any overs and any connected flop? the button doesnt make the decission easier the way its played if you dont hit a set you're folding most flops(especially against the action faced) kinda pointless being in position if thats the case.

I understand what moskovich is saying and why he flatted pre but i dont know what network this is on i would expect to get called by a lot worse than jj, especially 3 betting from the button(i do anyway, but my reg oppos se me do some strange stuff, especially in pos) so jj on the button is huge here for me, i want the origional raiser to put more money in and go 2 to the flop, seeing it 4 way and flatting pre causes all sorts of unnessarcery complications imo



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nice bird analogy, made me chuckle Wink

Of course 3betting pre is totally standard and probably best, but deffo flatting if there are fish in the blinds to help them make second best tp type hands that you can extract from easily. Also i dont mind flatting pre if your opponent is a TAG multitabler and/or abc solid type purely because it sucks to get 5b shoved on which AK will do a lot and i dont think its profitable full ring to get it in pre w JJ. Combinatronics means ur gonna be folding pre out of coinflips a lot.

i mainly just completely disagree with this sentance bolt.

i really really am not playing JJ to set mine when i flat a hj open. He will play the flop aggressively and play the turn facup a huge chunk of the time if he is a standard 200nl player,  probably cbetting most dry highcard boards and givup most turns unimproved oop.



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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2008, 11:20:11 AM »

Ffs i have read about 3 words in this thread and i know you are trying to tilt with misuse of the quote button.
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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2008, 12:26:55 PM »

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