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Re: The Truth About Hamas Rockets . . .
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January 13, 2009, 11:09:04 PM »
Without doubt the most stupid act of the 20th century was the creation of the state of Israel, read the history, look at the terrorism that led to it, think about taking land and giving it to a religious group - in the middle of an opposing religious group - back it up with every tool of modern warfare whilst ensuring that it's opponents have only dated weapons and support it no matter what attrocities it commits and tell me that trouble was never going to happen!
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Quote from: kukushkin88 on January 13, 2009, 10:26:36 PM
The assertion that you're either in one camp or the other is just ridiculous, almost by definition all reasonable people take a balanced view of any situation. It is impossible to apply intelligent thought to any argument or discussion unless you are able to understand the subject from all perspectives.
Most people see a tragic situation and hope that somehow a peaceful resolution can be found, their instinct is rarely to take sides.
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Re: The Truth About Hamas Rockets . . .
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Quote from: danafish on January 13, 2009, 03:52:58 PM
Quote from: lazaroonie on January 13, 2009, 03:39:18 PM
the whole situation saddens me. I dont know who's right or who's wrong, and doubt if one side can really take the moral high ground in such a violent struggle.
Tell me about it. It's incredibly sad for everyone - personally sad for me because my family in Israel (who incidentally settled there in the 19th century, well before the state of Israel was even a pipe dream) keep having to flee to the north or abroad every time Hamas or Hezbollah fire rockets at their homes, and incredibly, unbelievably sad for the Palestinians who really have nowhere to flee to. I am certainly not saying that Israel has any moral high ground here - it's an ugly situation all round - but I am saying that given the circumstances and the background to this conflict, going back really for centuries, the Israeli government's actions are sort of understandable.
I think the important question is, before Britain created Israel how persecuted were your family in Palestine?
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Re: The Truth About Hamas Rockets . . .
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Quote from: Rod Paradise on January 14, 2009, 12:20:56 AM
Quote from: danafish on January 13, 2009, 03:52:58 PM
Quote from: lazaroonie on January 13, 2009, 03:39:18 PM
the whole situation saddens me. I dont know who's right or who's wrong, and doubt if one side can really take the moral high ground in such a violent struggle.
Tell me about it. It's incredibly sad for everyone - personally sad for me because my family in Israel (who incidentally settled there in the 19th century, well before the state of Israel was even a pipe dream) keep having to flee to the north or abroad every time Hamas or Hezbollah fire rockets at their homes, and incredibly, unbelievably sad for the Palestinians who really have nowhere to flee to. I am certainly not saying that Israel has any moral high ground here - it's an ugly situation all round - but I am saying that given the circumstances and the background to this conflict, going back really for centuries, the Israeli government's actions are sort of understandable.
I think the important question is, before Britain created Israel how persecuted were your family in Palestine?
Well, on my grandma's side her family fled the pogroms against the Jews in the late 19th century, and were in Palestine during the 1920 Palestine riots against the Jews. Pleasingly, they were not among those killed. On my grandpa's side, he fled to Palestine from Germany during the 1930s because of the rise of the Nazi party. I'm sorry, I'm not sure what point you're making.
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Re: The Truth About Hamas Rockets . . .
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January 14, 2009, 12:35:29 AM »
Quote from: danafish on January 14, 2009, 12:29:25 AM
Quote from: Rod Paradise on January 14, 2009, 12:20:56 AM
Quote from: danafish on January 13, 2009, 03:52:58 PM
Quote from: lazaroonie on January 13, 2009, 03:39:18 PM
the whole situation saddens me. I dont know who's right or who's wrong, and doubt if one side can really take the moral high ground in such a violent struggle.
Tell me about it. It's incredibly sad for everyone - personally sad for me because my family in Israel (who incidentally settled there in the 19th century, well before the state of Israel was even a pipe dream) keep having to flee to the north or abroad every time Hamas or Hezbollah fire rockets at their homes, and incredibly, unbelievably sad for the Palestinians who really have nowhere to flee to. I am certainly not saying that Israel has any moral high ground here - it's an ugly situation all round - but I am saying that given the circumstances and the background to this conflict, going back really for centuries, the Israeli government's actions are sort of understandable.
I think the important question is, before Britain created Israel how persecuted were your family in Palestine?
Well, on my grandma's side her family fled the pogroms against the Jews in the late 19th century, and were in Palestine during the 1920 Palestine riots against the Jews. Pleasingly, they were not among those killed. On my grandpa's side, he fled to Palestine from Germany during the 1930s because of the rise of the Nazi party. I'm sorry, I'm not sure what point you're making.
Because since Israel was created over half of the agreed Palestinian territory has been seized by Israel. I was wondering how the settlers were treated when the Jewish were a minority. I wasn't having a pop, I appreciate your well thought out replys.
I just find that I feel a deep distaste for the victims of the ghettoes, the holocaust, forcing the people of Palestine into what are effectively ghettoes & atacking them pretty indiscriminately. The slogan NEVER AGAIN should mean for anyone IMHO.
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January 14, 2009, 12:41:01 AM »
Bandit made a good point a bit too forcedly as well.
How can the West be taken seriously when Tony Blair is our envoy to the Middle East he was PM during the whole Weapons of Mass Destruction disgrace? It's like having Margaret Thatcher our envoy to South America.
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Re: The Truth About Hamas Rockets . . .
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January 14, 2009, 05:14:34 PM »
Well the truth is the rockets aint doing much harm eh? what 13 dead, 10 of which soliders I doubt died to those rockets they used to justify the genocide.
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