tipping

[Karabiner]

I've just found this thread and I really can't believe all of the faffing around that has been effluing up until now.

Let's face it where tipping is concerned it's simple(s)

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[paulhouk03]

I have always been a great tipper and always will be. For me, we all make lots of mistakes, and we make them day in, day out. The bad calls, the bad moves, tilting...the list is no end. So after spunking, for me, hundreds even thousands of pounds, the extra tipping is a reminder to me that this goes out of the total income and therefore if I play better and make better decisions then the tips will become insignificant. Yes it all adds up in the end, but thats nothing compared to the amount spent tilting, pay-offs and bad moves!

Here's another consideration. People are always moaning about dealers! Fact! That they are too slow, not good enough, doesn't protect the players....
But do you realise that most dealers are on close to minimum wage? Work for a longer period than normal with little break, and needs to have great attention span (to make sure there is no mistakes that will cost YOU thousands) to work sometimes for 6 hours on one table. All the while having to deal with out of turn bets, because people are not paying attention, telling people over and over the action is on them, making sure at all times no one is angle shooting and trying to gain an advantage, and trying their best to protect you as players but lets face it, we as poker players are not the easiest group to satisfy are we?

For the above reasons, I tip, and I tip well. I want a good customer service, so that the fishs feel comfortable on my table. I want fast dealing, so I can maximize my winnings. I want full protection, so I don't get another angle-shooting b******* trying to con me.....again! I want the dealer to be happy and want to work hard and pay attention, so he doesn't make a mistake that'll cost me alot more than if I would have tipped him.

agree with Robin here,

But then again I dont think I know any chinese person who doesn't tip well.

[relaedgc]

It really is a personal preference, and I don't think there's a right or wrong to the situation.

If I want a waitress to go the extra mile and ensure she keeps coming back to serve me over the rest? I tip her. Does it work? Sure does.

When it comes to tipping the dealer, well, that's a different story. I confess to a slightly detached interest when it comes to Roulette, Blackjack and other games. I couldn't really care if I take their money or give all the houses money away. Despite what people might think, or what they might tell you, we don't have any control over the ball on roulette nor any dodgy shuffling procedures to screw people over. It's quite literally a gamble, and as such, out of my control. Little sense from my perspective in getting worked up over that aspect. I can control whether people enjoy the experience.  When you've done it monotonously for a considerable time, you stop caring about the money. The focus is on making it enjoyable, win or lose, for those playing. There are some people whose ice only melts the second you start throwing money at them, and others who will treat you well irrespective. True in all walks of life, I think, not just the service industry.

With Poker? Well. You're playing with your money against someone else and their money. A lot more interaction and a more confrontational environment, too. I haven't ever really been overly concerned by it. I can safely say that there is no person that I treat better than any others because they tipped me. You could be the nicest person on earth, win a £10,000,000 pot with me dealing, tip nothing, and I wouldn't honestly care. More importantly, as a tipper, you shouldn't be doing it to keep you in dealers "good books". Courtesy does that. I started dealing before we could take tips and so they're nothing more than a bonus. I don't expect them. If you think to yourself, "Well. I made my money and he dealt me good cards" or "he dealt the game of his life" or "I hate money. Give it to the dealer" and then tip, well, much appreciated! But it doesn't and shouldn't effect any kind of service in that regard. Personally, at least.

I always tip the dealers when I play because I work the same job and realize it's a grind, so there's some level of understanding there. I don't think people should feel that they're obligated to make up for the shortcomings of peoples employers, though. If they're paid that bad, find something better. You don't have to foot the burden of others. If you're a genuine hard worker, you will always be able to find a better job. I have always managed to at least.

Those that put in the greatest effort, work the hardest and speak with a good mixture of humour and politeness are the ones that you're going to -want- to tip, anyway, and generally are the ones to receive them. Which to me is speaking of exceptional service and those that go above and beyond get rewarded for it in some manner. Or they're a fit bird. Even better if both. But that's just the way of the poker world.

[Karabiner]

Excellent postage sir

[RED-DOG]

My income (Such as it is) comes from poker, ergo, at the end of the week, my wage will be light by the amount I tip.

If I were to tip the dealers, say, £1-2 per pot, maybe 10 pots per night, x 5 nights per week, that's approx £75pw.

Add to this the £25 or so that I give to the vallets, (I can't bring myself not to tip the vallets) and that brings it up to £100pw. (Or 5k a year)

I could have a new car every three years for that price.

I have a daughter who works 40+ hours pw for minimum wage, and another who can't find a job at the moment. It's hard for me to give money to outsiders instead of them.

I do tip dealers occasionally, but certainly not every pot. I simply can't afford to.

[HOLDorFOLD]

Are we talking about cash tables tipping here?

I never play cash, but plan to one day, so do you tip when you leave the table and tip the dealer directly or as in the case of Luton put it in the tip box on the TD table?


Tournament play - If I cash I tip. I usually put it into that box as I've had many dealers over the night.  I assume this gets divied out equally.

[relaedgc]

You've tipped me Red. Actually said I was the best dealer you've ever seen, in Manchester, which was nice! If not entirely accurate. 

And aye, tips are all pooled in Grosvenor.

[ScottMGee]

hold or fold, where did you find your profile pic?

[gatso]

Are we talking about cash tables tipping here?

I never play cash, but plan to one day, so do you tip when you leave the table and tip the dealer directly or as in the case of Luton put it in the tip box on the TD table?


Tournament play - If I cash I tip. I usually put it into that box as I've had many dealers over the night.  I assume this gets divied out equally.

cash game tipping is done direct to the dealer and usually on a pot by pot basis when winning a decent pot. a few people do their tipping when leaving the table but that's not as common