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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2010, 03:14:04 PM »

"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."

Tell you what then mate let's put all these tragedies at the top of our priority list and actually do something about it.

We'll put everything else to one side because clearly this is more important than other trivial things that are going on.

We'll try to form some kind of group and actually do something pro-active and speak up for what we believe are the important things.

I'll meet you tonight  about 7.30 and we'll sort it.

That sound good or have you got something more important to do?

I love how the people that parade their ignorance about the things happening in the world manage to be condescending about it.......




So what great thing have you done to try to help? Obviously you like to berate other people for being ignorant of the situation but ask yourself honestly what have you done?

Have you donated to charities that try to help?

Have you donated clothes etc. to try to help?

Have you made the ultimate sacrifice and actually given up some of your time to go out there and help where it really matters?

I'd rather be ignorant of something as tragic as this than know everything there is to know and still do sweet F.A. about it.
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« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2010, 03:27:09 PM »

"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."

Tell you what then mate let's put all these tragedies at the top of our priority list and actually do something about it.

We'll put everything else to one side because clearly this is more important than other trivial things that are going on.

We'll try to form some kind of group and actually do something pro-active and speak up for what we believe are the important things.

I'll meet you tonight  about 7.30 and we'll sort it.

That sound good or have you got something more important to do?

I love how the people that parade their ignorance about the things happening in the world manage to be condescending about it.......




So what great thing have you done to try to help? Obviously you like to berate other people for being ignorant of the situation but ask yourself honestly what have you done?

Have you donated to charities that try to help?

Have you donated clothes etc. to try to help?

Have you made the ultimate sacrifice and actually given up some of your time to go out there and help where it really matters?

I'd rather be ignorant of something as tragic as this than know everything there is to know and still do sweet F.A. about it.

I'm not breating you for being ignorant at all, I'm criticising you for being smug about it & putting down those who aren't by asking what they do about the things they care about.

As to your nosy questions:

1. Why would you care, you're proud of not giving a f***?

2. There's a huge great gap between knowing everything there is to know (which no-one has claimed) and doing F.A. and knowing a bit & doing what you can. Not everyone needs to join Medecin Sans Frontiers to care or to have helped.

Don't try to cover up your failings by applying guilt to those with the conscience enough to care about things.

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« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2010, 04:13:24 PM »

"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."

Tell you what then mate let's put all these tragedies at the top of our priority list and actually do something about it.

We'll put everything else to one side because clearly this is more important than other trivial things that are going on.

We'll try to form some kind of group and actually do something pro-active and speak up for what we believe are the important things.

I'll meet you tonight  about 7.30 and we'll sort it.

That sound good or have you got something more important to do?

I love how the people that parade their ignorance about the things happening in the world manage to be condescending about it.......




So what great thing have you done to try to help? Obviously you like to berate other people for being ignorant of the situation but ask yourself honestly what have you done?

Have you donated to charities that try to help?

Have you donated clothes etc. to try to help?

Have you made the ultimate sacrifice and actually given up some of your time to go out there and help where it really matters?

I'd rather be ignorant of something as tragic as this than know everything there is to know and still do sweet F.A. about it.

I'm not breating you for being ignorant at all, I'm criticising you for being smug about it & putting down those who aren't by asking what they do about the things they care about.

As to your nosy questions:

1. Why would you care, you're proud of not giving a f***?

2. There's a huge great gap between knowing everything there is to know (which no-one has claimed) and doing F.A. and knowing a bit & doing what you can. Not everyone needs to join Medecin Sans Frontiers to care or to have helped.

Don't try to cover up your failings by applying guilt to those with the conscience enough to care about things.



I'm not being smug about it. I'm also not proud of not giving a f**k.

What I'm being is honest about my priorities in life.

As much as i wish these tragedies had never happened I am far more concerned about many other things that are incredibly trivial in comparison.

I'm not trying to make you or anybody else feel guilty to cover up my "failings". Nobody should feel guilty about doing nothing. It is no different to the majority of the population.

As for the nosy questions. They were just satisfying my curiosity.

I agree entirely that we don't need to join Medecin Sans Frontiers to show we care but seriously what have you done?

I'm not trying to lay any guilt on you at all and there's no need to publicly state what you've done but just ask yourself the question.

You slate me which is fair enough. I did nothing to help at all. Despite knowing what happened I admit I did nothing. I like to think I would have helped if I could but I'd be lying to myself. I could easily have donated a few hundred quid but I didn't. I went and spent it on beer and strippers instead.

This isn't being smug. This is being honest.

I have thought about this tragedy several times in the past. Basically it's when I see it mentioned somewhere. Are you the same? Or do you just think about it randomly because it's at the forefront of your conscience. Believe me I have spent time thinking about it. It brings a lump to my throat when I see it on the news. It's capable of bringing a tear to my eye. I still haven't done anything about it. Do I care? Yes I care. Do I do anything about it? No I don't.

Did you send as much as a quid to help? If so then you did much more than me. If you only think about it when it pops up on a forum or in the newspaper then I'm afraid you don't care any more than I do.

You just like to pretend you do to cover up your own failings.
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« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2010, 05:13:15 PM »

"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."

Tell you what then mate let's put all these tragedies at the top of our priority list and actually do something about it.

We'll put everything else to one side because clearly this is more important than other trivial things that are going on.

We'll try to form some kind of group and actually do something pro-active and speak up for what we believe are the important things.

I'll meet you tonight  about 7.30 and we'll sort it.

That sound good or have you got something more important to do?

I love how the people that parade their ignorance about the things happening in the world manage to be condescending about it.......




So what great thing have you done to try to help? Obviously you like to berate other people for being ignorant of the situation but ask yourself honestly what have you done?

Have you donated to charities that try to help?

Have you donated clothes etc. to try to help?

Have you made the ultimate sacrifice and actually given up some of your time to go out there and help where it really matters?

I'd rather be ignorant of something as tragic as this than know everything there is to know and still do sweet F.A. about it.

I'm not breating you for being ignorant at all, I'm criticising you for being smug about it & putting down those who aren't by asking what they do about the things they care about.

As to your nosy questions:

1. Why would you care, you're proud of not giving a f***?

2. There's a huge great gap between knowing everything there is to know (which no-one has claimed) and doing F.A. and knowing a bit & doing what you can. Not everyone needs to join Medecin Sans Frontiers to care or to have helped.

Don't try to cover up your failings by applying guilt to those with the conscience enough to care about things.



I'm not being smug about it. I'm also not proud of not giving a f**k.

What I'm being is honest about my priorities in life.

As much as i wish these tragedies had never happened I am far more concerned about many other things that are incredibly trivial in comparison.

I'm not trying to make you or anybody else feel guilty to cover up my "failings". Nobody should feel guilty about doing nothing. It is no different to the majority of the population.

As for the nosy questions. They were just satisfying my curiosity.

I agree entirely that we don't need to join Medecin Sans Frontiers to show we care but seriously what have you done?

I'm not trying to lay any guilt on you at all and there's no need to publicly state what you've done but just ask yourself the question.

You slate me which is fair enough. I did nothing to help at all. Despite knowing what happened I admit I did nothing. I like to think I would have helped if I could but I'd be lying to myself. I could easily have donated a few hundred quid but I didn't. I went and spent it on beer and strippers instead.

This isn't being smug. This is being honest.

I have thought about this tragedy several times in the past. Basically it's when I see it mentioned somewhere. Are you the same? Or do you just think about it randomly because it's at the forefront of your conscience. Believe me I have spent time thinking about it. It brings a lump to my throat when I see it on the news. It's capable of bringing a tear to my eye. I still haven't done anything about it. Do I care? Yes I care. Do I do anything about it? No I don't.

Did you send as much as a quid to help? If so then you did much more than me. If you only think about it when it pops up on a forum or in the newspaper then I'm afraid you don't care any more than I do.

You just like to pretend you do to cover up your own failings.


Oh come on - a master class in the old switcharound, but as a serious debate that's got nothing.

I know and admit my failings (at least to myself) - but what I don't do is start surmising how much someone else does and slagging them for it to make me feel better.

Do I do enough? Probably not. Do I try to do what I can? Probably not hard enough, but I try.

I'm not judging you, that's for you to do, but please stop backing up and echoing the arguments of a 'celeb' who plays to the lowest common denominator & encourages thoughtlessness and narrow minded values - and then makes them out to be a good thing.
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« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2010, 04:07:06 PM »

I did my bit and watched Hotel Rwanda once.
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« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2010, 04:10:59 PM »

I did my bit and watched Hotel Rwanda once.

LOOL wb x
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« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2010, 04:20:52 PM »

I did my bit and watched Hotel Rwanda once.

LOL Grin
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« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2010, 01:49:12 PM »

My daughter asked me for a pound this morning before setting off for school.

I asked what for, she said everyone had to bring in a pound for her form tutor who is sending it to an orphanage in South Africa.

I didn't give her the pound and told her to ask her tutor if there was an orphanage in Manchester I could send two pounds to instead!

Am I bad?
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« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2010, 01:54:23 PM »

No - the SA orphans would only waste the pound on vuvuzelas.
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« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2010, 02:02:41 PM »

My daughter asked me for a pound this morning before setting off for school.

I asked what for, she said everyone had to bring in a pound for her form tutor who is sending it to an orphanage in South Africa.

I didn't give her the pound and told her to ask her tutor if there was an orphanage in Manchester I could send two pounds to instead!

Am I bad?

It's akin to having a jigsaw and saying you want to concentrate on the top left side of puzzle. You're not going to solve it unless you work on the entire thing.
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« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2010, 02:11:37 PM »

I did my bit and watched Hotel Rwanda once.

lol...WP.


Hope you downloaded it though and didn't pay for it.
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« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2010, 03:02:24 PM »

I did my bit and watched Hotel Rwanda once.

LMAO.

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« Reply #42 on: June 15, 2010, 08:21:13 AM »

My daughter asked me for a pound this morning before setting off for school.

I asked what for, she said everyone had to bring in a pound for her form tutor who is sending it to an orphanage in South Africa.

I didn't give her the pound and told her to ask her tutor if there was an orphanage in Manchester I could send two pounds to instead!

Am I bad?

I'd give her a quid even if it was for Davey Newth

Don't wouldn't want my kid to be the only one without a pound.

Maybe I'm bad too then, for different reasons.

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« Reply #43 on: June 15, 2010, 10:09:40 AM »

My daughter asked me for a pound this morning before setting off for school.

I asked what for, she said everyone had to bring in a pound for her form tutor who is sending it to an orphanage in South Africa.

I didn't give her the pound and told her to ask her tutor if there was an orphanage in Manchester I could send two pounds to instead!

Am I bad?

I'd give her a quid even if it was for Davey Newth

Don't wouldn't want my kid to be the only one without a pound.

Maybe I'm bad too then, for different reasons.



+1.

Not fair to make your kid face that awkward situation

Pretty sure Brian didn't do that though. He prob gave like £3.20 as he's minted and makes additional moneys from grimmings
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« Reply #44 on: June 15, 2010, 01:35:05 PM »

My daughter asked me for a pound this morning before setting off for school.

I asked what for, she said everyone had to bring in a pound for her form tutor who is sending it to an orphanage in South Africa.

I didn't give her the pound and told her to ask her tutor if there was an orphanage in Manchester I could send two pounds to instead!

Am I bad?

I'd give her a quid even if it was for Davey Newth

Don't wouldn't want my kid to be the only one without a pound.

Maybe I'm bad too then, for different reasons.



+1.

Not fair to make your kid face that awkward situation

Pretty sure Brian didn't do that though. He prob gave like £3.20 as he's minted and makes additional moneys from grimmings

Nah I gave her fcuk all as I was scared she was going to grim me, as the last person who grimmed me left me mentally scarred....I just keep getting visions of smashing plates and kebabs everytime I open my wallet
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