6 max Omaha - now what

[chrisbruce]

Ok Not a big level just really wanted to know if people are shuving or calling here.
I have no stats on Villan as I dont play Omaha very much any more.

I called and the river card was

** Dealing River ** [ ] - which changed nothing
z3r0 goes all-in
z3r0 bets [$46.44]

Now do I make a crying call here???

[DMorgan]

No, he has AA pretty much always. If you had a reason to suspect that he could have a lot of different hands here then you should have shoved the turn, but in the absence of that all we have to go on are his actions in this hand and the assumption that he's not very good and so plays straight forward.

Therefore he has AA here the vast majority of the time. You are going to have the best hand way less than the 21.25% of the time that you need to make this a call getting 3.7 to 1 on the river imo.

[EvilPie]

Fold pre
Raise flop
Shove turn
F**k knows what if you manage to get to the river with chips left.

[George2Loose]

Butchered

[chrisbruce]

Butchered

Yes I know

thats why I am posting it.

[GreekStein]

Butchered

Yes I know

thats why I am posting it.

Chris I know you didn't want to discuss it but I think the key thing is the call pre.

Do you not want to discuss because you think its profitable or view the call as a mistake?

[chrisbruce]

I just wanted to discuss the hand post flop.

At this level I find players can get very stuborn with a strong pre flop hand even when they miss the flop totally.
therefore when my junk connects I can get paid.

That said I am struggling with Omaha and playing around with stratagies.

Interesting conclusion to the hand which I will post now

[chrisbruce]

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 719808613 *****
PL $0.50/$1 Omaha - Monday, June 21, 16:46:38 GMT 2010
Table Upper Rhine 07 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of active players : 5
Seat 1: Hitandrun ( $161.57 )
Seat 2: TrentBoyett ( $50 )
Seat 3: man21 ( $99 )
Seat 4: famagusta 9 ( $153.84 )
Seat 5: Megiddo ( $89.88 )
Seat 6: z3r0 ( $131.55 )
man21 posts small blind [$0.50]
famagusta 9 posts big blind [$1]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hitandrun [ , , , ]
Megiddo folds
z3r0 raises to [$3.50]
Hitandrun calls [$3.50]
man21 folds
famagusta 9 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
z3r0 bets [$7.20]
Hitandrun calls [$7.20]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
z3r0 checks
Hitandrun bets [$17.17]
z3r0 raises to [$74.41]
Hitandrun calls [$57.24]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
z3r0 goes all-in
z3r0 bets [$46.44]
Hitandrun calls [$46.44]
** Showdown **
Hitandrun shows [ , , , ] three of a kind, Sixes
z3r0 shows [ , , Ah, ] two pair, Aces and Sixes
** Hand Conclusion **
Hitandrun wins $261.60 from main pot with three of a kind, Sixes
************  Game 719808613 ends  ************

[chrisbruce]

I really do think I butchered this hand, but conversely profited the most.

That said I should have got it all in on the turn.