Calling a min raise in the bb with half a hand.

[NigDawG]

Versus very low stakes players "donk leading" the flop might be a viable strategy...but as soon as you start getting beyond the $20 level you really will struggle to employ this strategy successfully, especially when you're thinking about using it on such a basic level. I mean there's a reason why it's called a "donk bet" in the first place...

Also I think you misunderstand the principle of a bet...here, by your theory, if he calls your bet you're probably beat and if he raises your bet you're beat. We'd also have to make the assumption that if he folds you had the best hand. So this way betting will struggle to get called by worse and never fold out better, so what was the point of the bet in the first place? We want to keep in the hands we beat, now if you'd of said "lead out to induce bluffs" (while I may or may not agree with the effectiveness or suitability of it here) your strategy would actually have some logic.  

[NigDawG]

And I'd imagine that folding pre loses less money long term than calling and employing any postflop strategy you like here 

[geordieneil]

And I'd imagine that folding pre loses less money long term than calling and employing any postflop strategy you like here 

don't disagree with you, i stated that i would call preflop, to face it hit a miracle, coz its very cheap and if hitting hard i could be well paid off. the problem with calling pre is if u hit a bit of a very wet board, imho in the situation that arose u have to lead to see where u are...yes if he calls u r probably beat, if raised definately beat, but also like i said earlier he may well fold a better king if he fears i have the 10. if amatay played the hand this way instead of check calling 2 bets he would of saved quite a few chips.

  i certaintly dont disagree with folding pre, but myself i'm defo calling.......but thats the beauty of poker we all play different

[SuuPRlim]

sometimes Cos, when I bet it isn't for value

[GreekStein]

sometimes Cos, when I bet it isn't for value

against me, it's always for value

[Dubai]

Calling pre here is fine and i dont think its particularly close. In fact i disagree that people "defend too loosly"- at hs mtts online these days people dont "defend" wide enough as they are simply preflop robots

[EvilPie]

Calling pre here is fine and i dont think its particularly close. In fact i disagree that people "defend too loosly"- at hs mtts online these days people dont "defend" wide enough as they are simply preflop robots

....and now we'll get loads of people coming on saying how it's not a leak.

fwiw I agree completely with Dubai. It's absolutely fine but you have to know what you're doing and also know a bit about your opponent.

If you're not confident of playing oop with marginal holdings then calling is a big leak. If you are confident then it's no problem at all.

Personally I would probably call. It's not because I'm confident of my abilities it's because I'm comfortable with having a few leaks.

[railtard1]

Calling pre here is fine and i dont think its particularly close. In fact i disagree that people "defend too loosly"- at hs mtts online these days people dont "defend" wide enough as they are simply preflop robots

i flat RIDIC wide in position, but peeling k7 OOP i dont like.
i respect ur opinion on this matter, so out of interest, are you peeling 100% of hands here?( I know k7s isnt 100% of hands). or like 70% of hands?

Would you still peel vs a very good high stakes mtt reg online who is goin to play very well in position.?