Huge Pot @ GranPrix

[neverbluff67]

i dont understand why your going to war with the only good player at the table in the previous hand..

in the 99s hand with the history as described i think 3bet/calling is the best line

[pleno1]

i dont understand why your going to war with the only good player at the table in the previous hand..

in the 99s hand with the history as described i think 3bet/calling is the best line

My thought process behind the former was that Jaes will literally open 100% of pots and everyone else had 15-20bb stacks but were not shoving any wider than AQ/99 they were really bad/nitty. If I didnt adjust James would have just taken all the dead money and I thought this was an idea spot to go from 110k to over 150-200k and be in a good position to win tournie. I thought if I peeled a couple of times and raised flops he would readjust and nit up letting me have full reign of the table again. Is this really bad?

[SuuPRlim]

Why do "very very very good" players need backing for £50 tourneys?

I dont know why a) this is relevant, or b) you feel the need to comment, considering you probably have no idea of the financial situation of the player, or his backing deal. I dont want to open the whole "why do good players need staking" bs of an argument and i knwo im gonna get flamed for this post but w/e it rele pisses me off and Iv never been one to not say when somethig pisses me off...

Back to subject - I 100% agree with 3bet/calling pre, I think despite your history he's smart enough to not randomly spazz with   and vs a competant 4bet calling range we're not in great shape + 3bet folding is just out of the question cos our hand is too good. As played I think if we dont raise flop (which i really think we should) we cant do anything but call turn raise and call river shove(which he is surely doing having raised the turn to leave himself 1/3 pot behind?) I spose we can go all in on the turn but if we have 0 fold equity call call is marginally better for obvious reasons.

I anxiously await the results, Im gonna guess KQ with the  

[pleno1]

The reason I don't like raising this flop is because his value range and spaz range is pretty small. I mean I think I get spite eyeballed with kings, As and not too much more. If this was say a 982 flop I would much prefer to raise as I think he could spite eyeball a huge range, 56,67,78,910,10j,q10,qj,kq,ak,aq, 1010+ etc

The range I actually put on him on the turn when he c/r was KQsx or AAsx, but I really don't think he jams the river with these. It is quite interesting that in the car on the way home James told me that he put me on a small flush like 67ss or j10ss, he also told me he would 100% barrel the turn wih AAsx/KQsx and most likely fold if I jammed.

James had Q8ss.

[GreekStein]

Why do "very very very good" players need backing for £50 tourneys?

I dont know why a) this is relevant, or b) you feel the need to comment, considering you probably have no idea of the financial situation of the player, or his backing deal. I dont want to open the whole "why do good players need staking" bs of an argument and i knwo im gonna get flamed for this post but w/e it rele pisses me off and Iv never been one to not say when somethig pisses me off...

agree dave.

[Karabiner]

Why do "very very very good" players need backing for £50 tourneys?

I dont know why a) this is relevant, or b) you feel the need to comment, considering you probably have no idea of the financial situation of the player, or his backing deal. I dont want to open the whole "why do good players need staking" bs of an argument and i knwo im gonna get flamed for this post but w/e it rele pisses me off and Iv never been one to not say when somethig pisses me off...

I apologise if my post upset anyone, but this whole staking culture doesn't really sit comfortably with me.

I shall refrain from opining on matters where staking is involved in the future.

agree dave.

[mondatoo]

Why do "very very very good" players need backing for £50 tourneys?

I dont know why a) this is relevant, or b) you feel the need to comment, considering you probably have no idea of the financial situation of the player, or his backing deal. I dont want to open the whole "why do good players need staking" bs of an argument and i knwo im gonna get flamed for this post but w/e it rele pisses me off and Iv never been one to not say when somethig pisses me off...

I apologise if my post upset anyone, but this whole staking culture doesn't really sit comfortably with me.

I shall refrain from opining on matters where staking is involved in the future.

agree dave.

I'm interested in people's reasons why they aren't comfortable with it.I think it would be fair to say your comment was a tad sarcastic Ralf and is maybe why some took offence but I think there is a valid discussion to be had on this.

[pleno1]

Btw I am staked by a fellow blonde and in a sick value tournament such as this one + the 6max sidey (that was ridic soft) I think that it would be totall unfair to exlcude these games from the staking deal. Most of my tournies I play are the same amount and usually lower so seems ridic that I wouldnt. I see staking as a long term project that can be profitable for both of us.

[SuuPRlim]

Why do "very very very good" players need backing for £50 tourneys?

I dont know why a) this is relevant, or b) you feel the need to comment, considering you probably have no idea of the financial situation of the player, or his backing deal. I dont want to open the whole "why do good players need staking" bs of an argument and i knwo im gonna get flamed for this post but w/e it rele pisses me off and Iv never been one to not say when somethig pisses me off...

I apologise if my post upset anyone, but this whole staking culture doesn't really sit comfortably with me.

I shall refrain from opining on matters where staking is involved in the future.

agree dave.

and I as well apologise for being insanely aggro in my response lol. Im happy to open debate about it, but as long as we avoid the "if you're good why do you need staking" argument.
ty

[Karabiner]

Why do "very very very good" players need backing for £50 tourneys?

I dont know why a) this is relevant, or b) you feel the need to comment, considering you probably have no idea of the financial situation of the player, or his backing deal. I dont want to open the whole "why do good players need staking" bs of an argument and i knwo im gonna get flamed for this post but w/e it rele pisses me off and Iv never been one to not say when somethig pisses me off...

I apologise if my post upset anyone, but this whole staking culture doesn't really sit comfortably with me.

I shall refrain from opining on matters where staking is involved in the future.

agree dave.

and I as well apologise for being insanely aggro in my response lol. Im happy to open debate about it, but as long as we avoid the "if you're good why do you need staking" argument.
ty

No problem but please do not put words in my mouth.

I was referring to a player who was so good that three "very"s were needed to describe his skillz.

[SuuPRlim]

Why do "very very very good" players need backing for £50 tourneys?

I dont know why a) this is relevant, or b) you feel the need to comment, considering you probably have no idea of the financial situation of the player, or his backing deal. I dont want to open the whole "why do good players need staking" bs of an argument and i knwo im gonna get flamed for this post but w/e it rele pisses me off and Iv never been one to not say when somethig pisses me off...

I apologise if my post upset anyone, but this whole staking culture doesn't really sit comfortably with me.

I shall refrain from opining on matters where staking is involved in the future.

agree dave.

and I as well apologise for being insanely aggro in my response lol. Im happy to open debate about it, but as long as we avoid the "if you're good why do you need staking" argument.
ty

No problem but please do not put words in my mouth.

I was referring to a player who was so good that three "very"s were needed to describe his skillz.

mbn to be Very Very Very good. I might stake him

[neverbluff67]

i dont understand why your going to war with the only good player at the table in the previous hand..

in the 99s hand with the history as described i think 3bet/calling is the best line

My thought process behind the former was that Jaes will literally open 100% of pots and everyone else had 15-20bb stacks but were not shoving any wider than AQ/99 they were really bad/nitty. If I didnt adjust James would have just taken all the dead money and I thought this was an idea spot to go from 110k to over 150-200k and be in a good position to win tournie. I thought if I peeled a couple of times and raised flops he would readjust and nit up letting me have full reign of the table again. Is this really bad?

Yeah once i posted it i thought about the situation more and its not bad at all lol i was thinking of situations where iv done the exact same.
so ignore that bit

[SuuPRlim]

i dont understand why your going to war with the only good player at the table in the previous hand..

in the 99s hand with the history as described i think 3bet/calling is the best line

My thought process behind the former was that Jaes will literally open 100% of pots and everyone else had 15-20bb stacks but were not shoving any wider than AQ/99 they were really bad/nitty. If I didnt adjust James would have just taken all the dead money and I thought this was an idea spot to go from 110k to over 150-200k and be in a good position to win tournie. I thought if I peeled a couple of times and raised flops he would readjust and nit up letting me have full reign of the table again. Is this really bad?

Yeah once i posted it i thought about the situation more and its not bad at all lol i was thinking of situations where iv done the exact same.
so ignore that bit

find a good spot to 3to5bet T4o vs him imo

[George2Loose]

i dont understand why your going to war with the only good player at the table in the previous hand..

in the 99s hand with the history as described i think 3bet/calling is the best line

My thought process behind the former was that Jaes will literally open 100% of pots and everyone else had 15-20bb stacks but were not shoving any wider than AQ/99 they were really bad/nitty. If I didnt adjust James would have just taken all the dead money and I thought this was an idea spot to go from 110k to over 150-200k and be in a good position to win tournie. I thought if I peeled a couple of times and raised flops he would readjust and nit up letting me have full reign of the table again. Is this really bad?

lol did wonder if someone had hacked your account when you posted the above

Yeah once i posted it i thought about the situation more and its not bad at all lol i was thinking of situations where iv done the exact same.
so ignore that bit