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« on: November 01, 2010, 12:10:39 AM »

Mid day 2, about 150 players left.

I'm on table 37 which means that my table will be one of the latter ones to break. My table has been really passive and only 3 people been knocked out ( I took them all out) I'm opening around 85% of pots and winning around 70% of them. I have 80k and nobody on the table has over 15k. Looking around the room I cant see anyone on over 50k although it is very possible there is, one guy who does have more is James Howard my friend from Newcastle and very very very good player James has 80k as he is put to my direct right. James tells me he has been opening 100% of pots on other table without resistance. We swap 10%..

First hand he raises I call in position, raise his flop bet and take it away with air, second time its exactly the same thing and James I hear James telling his backer Ben  FML why do I have to be put on his  right.

James is down to 60k and I have 110k (average 27,800) There are 4 levels left till end of day. Average going into day 3 with 114 left was like 55k iirc.

Folded to James in the cut off and he makes it 3300 at 800/1600

I CALL on the button with   and the blinds get out the way

FLOP:   two spades

James bets 4100 which I think is largish cbet size. I CALL

TURN:  

James checks pretty quickly and I make it 7k, James takes around 10 seconds and makes it 18k more, I CALL (he has 22k behind)

RIVER:  

James shoves (22k) I CALL

We talked about this hand in the car for over an hour about both of our lines on all four streets.

Thoughts on-
Flatting pre
5bet shoving pre for value
3bet folding pre
Raising Flop
Checking behind turn
Just getting it in on turn
James' value range on turn that he's happy to get it in with
FOLD river?

Sorry theres alot but I think its a really unique spot in tricky situation.
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2010, 12:32:20 AM »

If only the dealer had pulled him up for the under raise....

2300 at 800/1600, is not allowed.


Other than that i think your just over analysing the hand coz he had a flush.

Nothing wrong with your play, just standard cooler.
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2010, 12:43:02 AM »

he makes it 25k on the turn?
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2010, 01:02:35 AM »

If only the dealer had pulled him up for the under raise....

2300 at 800/1600, is not allowed.


Other than that i think your just over analysing the hand coz he had a flush.

Nothing wrong with your play, just standard cooler.

ah, 3300, cbet size seems fine now then. and yes rupert he raised 18k
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2010, 07:37:34 AM »


Thoughts on-

3bet folding pre
Checking behind turn


can't imagine why you should ever do either of these things
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2010, 08:46:21 AM »

When you're on a weak/passive/easy table, where you out-chip everyone except one person, and that person is, by your own admission "very very very good", why pick him to tangle with?
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2010, 09:44:38 AM »

We swap 10%..

Erm, what!?
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2010, 09:58:58 AM »

i'd raise the flop given history it's gonna be pretty tough for him to fold a king given that youve done it 3 times in a row
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2010, 11:14:11 AM »

Why do "very very very good" players need backing for £50 tourneys?
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2010, 11:16:53 AM »

Why do "very very very good" players need backing for £50 tourneys?

Because someone is staked for a £50 tourney does that mean their staking only includes £50 tournies?

They could be staked for a variety of games and whilst in makeup are playing this too. I know if I was the backer and my horse was in makeup I'd want them playing this on makeup.
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2010, 01:06:03 PM »

Looks fine, guess we could raise flop sometimes too, and obviously 3b pre is an option...
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2010, 01:29:39 PM »

Why do "very very very good" players need backing for £50 tourneys?

MBN to have never gone broke
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2010, 01:31:42 PM »

Definitely prefer a 3bet pre, happy to play for stacks here against another very aggro player for <40bbs

You've been owning him, he probably knows it and is clearly frustrated with the situation, perfect to 3bet to induce the 4bet spazjam and snap it off

As played I like your line and snap the river. We're playing 38bbs deep in a £50FO vs an aggro competent player and the board run makes it so easy for him to put you on draws and weak 1 pair hands, definitely not thinking about  folding here.

 
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2010, 01:35:32 PM »


+1

If he was on your left and you were going to be there all day maybe but you have position on him and you already know the rest of the table. Really bad spot to swap imo
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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2010, 01:40:50 PM »

Yeh seems strange that youll c/raise him with air then when you have a super strong hand you just decide to flat
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