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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2011, 06:14:46 PM »

If villain doesn't think hero has a raise fold range on the turn or his raise fold % is lower than the amount that hero will fold to flat turn/shove river then having a range for this is fine. (phewww)

When two very strong ranges interact with each other on this board texture there is only a few equity % either way. It should be obvious then why, if we can get our opponent to fold to a river shove a none 0% of the time flat/jam is the best line. If we both have massive draws (very unlikely here), who's gonna win the pot on a brick! Flat/jam here for example is the correct play http://www.pokerhand.org/?5772585. And slightly different but here http://www.pokerhand.org/?5793806 betting board pairs and diamonds.

Theoretically this seems like the best way to play this spot to me. Practically I have no idea if villain plays this spot like this but I think I would be far too curious to fold given we only have to be good about 1/4 the time.

Why the lead in the first one btw? I don't like betting wraps on a 2-flush board in multiway pots.
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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2011, 06:21:31 PM »

Out of the three available buttons Rob only really likes the one on the right
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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2011, 12:58:07 PM »

If villain doesn't think hero has a raise fold range on the turn or his raise fold % is lower than the amount that hero will fold to flat turn/shove river then having a range for this is fine. (phewww)

When two very strong ranges interact with each other on this board texture there is only a few equity % either way. It should be obvious then why, if we can get our opponent to fold to a river shove a none 0% of the time flat/jam is the best line. If we both have massive draws (very unlikely here), who's gonna win the pot on a brick! Flat/jam here for example is the correct play http://www.pokerhand.org/?5772585. And slightly different but here http://www.pokerhand.org/?5793806 betting board pairs and diamonds.

Theoretically this seems like the best way to play this spot to me. Practically I have no idea if villain plays this spot like this but I think I would be far too curious to fold given we only have to be good about 1/4 the time.

Why the lead in the first one btw? I don't like betting wraps on a 2-flush board in multiway pots.

Don't want to derail the thread so I'l just say it's the best of a bad bunch. It gets us in to tough spots in this context obviously but it's just a hand that we have to play with the lead.

Read the OP and some of the posts are quite surprising. Everyone who is good thinks villains line is bad though nobody has really stated a reason good enough for me to change my mind.
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« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2011, 08:31:36 PM »

I have a decent amount of love for the villains line tbh

Ship Patonius points to tht lil fish Smiley

If his turn.river thgouht process is in line with your post then ud assume he can take this line for value the same amount of the time, whereas he gains EV form Hero's fold% being marginally higher on the river after flat jam than a turn 3b, He is also gonna take the same line to maximise EV if he thinks we ever have a raise/fold range on the turn.




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« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2011, 05:48:09 PM »

did we find out what he had?
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2011, 02:53:01 PM »

did we find out what he had?

nope Sad
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