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« Reply #195 on: October 31, 2012, 02:13:44 PM »

agree with Pleno I think the QJs call is fine I just dont like the 3b too much.

I think the K9 hand was stnd enough as well, 3handed.
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« Reply #196 on: October 31, 2012, 02:20:03 PM »

I had only just got back from making a coffee and only saw Sylvia  pondering his decision.

Was it?

Merson 4m

Sylvia 9.5m

Merson 69m?

Sylvia calllll


I'm probably  just as zonked as he looked anyway, so probably misread it myself Smiley
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« Reply #197 on: October 31, 2012, 02:20:15 PM »

As played the call is fine but I think its pretty optimistic to think that you can induce a wide enough range to 4b jam heads up in the world series main to make 3b/call > flatting
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« Reply #198 on: October 31, 2012, 02:20:49 PM »

I had only just got back from making a coffee and only saw Sylvia  pondering his decision.

Was it?

Merson 4m

Sylvia 9.5m

Merson 69m?

Sylvia calllll


I'm probably  just as zonked as he looked anyway, so probably misread it myself Smiley


Yeh thats right according to pokernews
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« Reply #199 on: October 31, 2012, 02:23:33 PM »

all of them were too aggro pre, thats for sure, they were 3b/folding hands that were too strong and should have seen a flop with.

As played the qjs hand was pretty std, 2 hands previously merson 4b to 18.8m so when he jams here its a pretty easy call as merson si 4b/calling storng hands and vs a range of lots of poacket pairs and k/ax our hand has comfortably enough equity, especially with the dead money

OK obviously I wasn't paying enough attention and was only checking poker news here and there so couldn't see the majority of the cards. I assume both players had people telling them things like the quoted so yes that makes it an obvious call after the 3bet but the 3bet was the problem imo. If people were telling Jesse things like this then you would assume that Greg would balance his range more.

I thought Balsiger didn't seem to be 3betting a lot (lol sample) but on further checking he did seem to be more aggressive than I thought so I guess K9 is ok ish.
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« Reply #200 on: October 31, 2012, 02:29:21 PM »

Guessing it's fundamentally wrong if you're all in agreement, but not sure I'd want to call off another 30bb with QJ for my life....
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« Reply #201 on: October 31, 2012, 03:14:07 PM »

OK obviously I wasn't paying enough attention and was only checking poker news here and there so couldn't see the majority of the cards. I assume both players had people telling them things like the quoted so yes that makes it an obvious call after the 3bet but the 3bet was the problem imo. If people were telling Jesse things like this then you would assume that Greg would balance his range more.

I dont think was a concern for Greg, optimal play here is just to play every hand optimally in a vacuum, Antonio made a comment about Jesse's body language when he made the 3bet (the same read he'd had a few orbits ago when Jesse 3b/fold Q8o) so it's actually pretty likely Greg had picked up on the same thing and this played a decent role in his decision to 4b/jam.

I don't think it's necessarily an obvious call with QJs here, I think the call is 100% a correct one, Busquet was saying in the commentary KJs would be a call for him, I think Jesse is expecting to see a lot of suited Qx/Kx/small PPsand with 22million dead and the fact Merson is a very tough opponent I think caling is better than folding.

Like you say, 3betting not the best though
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« Reply #202 on: October 31, 2012, 03:34:25 PM »

Why didn't he have a plan though?
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« Reply #203 on: October 31, 2012, 03:58:35 PM »

They playing holdem Dave to the earlier question btw. Cates beat Sussie last night so doing it in already
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« Reply #204 on: October 31, 2012, 04:06:30 PM »

agree with Pleno I think the QJs call is fine I just dont like the 3b too much.

I think the K9 hand was stnd enough as well, 3handed.

it was HU, he limped and Merson was sat out his bb,
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« Reply #205 on: October 31, 2012, 08:41:49 PM »

was a great 3 handed, and the best played ended up winning
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« Reply #206 on: October 31, 2012, 08:42:08 PM »

was very entertaining
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« Reply #207 on: October 31, 2012, 10:37:06 PM »

Why didn't he have a plan though?


His plan was to 5 jam over Mersin 18.7 which happened the previous orbit, was t expecting a jam hence the 3b tank
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