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dreenie
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« on: May 22, 2013, 06:12:17 PM »

Is this terribly played? Anything you would do different and why?

If you just flat pre, are you folding the flop?

No reads on either player, 1st hour of the tournament :

PokerStars Hand #98949337960: Tournament #806010393, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (30/60) - 2013/05/22 17:46:07 WET [2013/05/22 12:46:07 ET]
Table '806010393 13' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Bit2Easy (2232 in chips)
Seat 2: dreeniee82 (1840 in chips)
Seat 3: dunkmeister2 (1920 in chips)
Seat 4: 5Mati (3015 in chips)
Seat 5: davebond2 (6545 in chips)
Seat 6: ACS102 (1575 in chips)
Seat 7: ekores (4408 in chips)
Seat 8: oh_betty420 (5150 in chips)
Seat 9: Heopsss (2850 in chips)
Bit2Easy: posts the ante 5
dreeniee82: posts the ante 5
dunkmeister2: posts the ante 5
5Mati: posts the ante 5
davebond2: posts the ante 5
ACS102: posts the ante 5
ekores: posts the ante 5
oh_betty420: posts the ante 5
Heopsss: posts the ante 5
dreeniee82: posts small blind 30
dunkmeister2: posts big blind 60
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dreeniee82 [ ]
5Mati: folds
davebond2: folds
ACS102: folds
ekores: raises 90 to 150
oh_betty420: folds
Heopsss: folds
Bit2Easy: calls 150
dreeniee82: calls 120
dunkmeister2: folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
dreeniee82: checks
ekores: bets 300
Bit2Easy: raises 420 to 720
dreeniee82: raises 965 to 1685 and is all-in
ekores: folds
Bit2Easy: calls 965
*** TURN *** [ ] [Two Diamonds]
*** RIVER *** [ Two Diamonds] [two spades]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dreeniee82: shows [ ] (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
Bit2Easy: shows [ ] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
Bit2Easy collected 4225 from pot
dreeniee82 finished the tournament in 1948th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4225 | Rake 0
Board [ Two Diamonds two spades]
Seat 1: Bit2Easy (button) showed [ ] and won (4225) with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 2: dreeniee82 (small blind) showed [ ] and lost with two pair, Kings and Deuces
Seat 3: dunkmeister2 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: 5Mati folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: davebond2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ACS102 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ekores folded on the Flop
Seat 8: oh_betty420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Heopsss folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2013, 06:17:31 PM »

I shove pre, 360 chips is enough for me to win with a hand that needs to hit flop oop

That may be terrible? If you had 3000 not 1800, different decision
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2013, 06:20:06 PM »

ya with 30bb i'd be squeezing pre to get it in.

If I flat pre i'm prob not folding the flop.
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2013, 06:38:24 PM »

Prefer 615/c than a jam. Reeves'll peel wider than most regs otb vs an MP open. He'd gii vs a 3b more than a jam imo.
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2013, 07:14:47 PM »

I think its fine tbh
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2013, 07:15:38 PM »

OK, thanks guy's.
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2013, 08:58:34 PM »

Definitely prefer a 3b/call pre to a jam and then a call. As played standard.
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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2013, 09:24:56 PM »

575/call pre

its probably best not to post the results straight away, but the flop play is likely ok but a bit closer than just "standard" for me
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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2013, 09:59:31 PM »

I dont hate shoving.  Defo prefer somewhere round 490/call.  It maybe doesn't matter so much in a tournament like this, but when I 3b here I defo want villains to think they have some fold equity if they shove.  600 is a bit too big for this imo.  If I 3b and get flatted I'm 100% c. betting big with the intention of getting it in on any flop.
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2013, 02:35:50 AM »

Something else pre, anything is going to be fine.
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2013, 02:51:24 AM »

Something else pre, anything is going to be fine.
This is so correct its genius. Just any raise will work in that spot. I do love it here really.
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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2013, 02:53:17 AM »

tough to rep anything but massive strength by 3b in this spot, id prob do it anyway 505/call
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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2013, 12:35:20 PM »

Would be much more tempted to flat if we were the BB as we're getting a better price to call and we close the action so can be peeling much wider and we can just peel a lot of the hands that make good 3b bluffs so can make not 3betting very often work pretty well. Because peeling with a lot of marginal stuff is much less attractive from the SB (worse price, not closing the action) then flatting pre is gonna be much worse with more of the broadway hands or whatever that make good hands to 3b bluff with so we can have more of a reasonable / wider 3b bluff range so would always just go for it with AK here
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