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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2014, 06:56:17 AM »

I don't think we have no fold equity, I expect this to get through a fair bit vs people who aren't sickos vs a cut off open and a button call. Definitely not folding though, feel like that's throwing away money more than anything else. Maybe I'm just too old school for set mining this shallow :p
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« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2014, 12:35:07 PM »

very very clear call imo. Why do you not want to call and check/fold 80% of flops when you are getting 5.5/1 on the call and only need to win a small cbet on average every time you flop a set to make it profitable
set mine from 15bbs? Not sure I like that. Prefer the jam for the fold equity.
Don't think we are in great shape a lot of the time here though.

We barely have fold equity, what reason do you have for not wanting to peel other than you don't like it?
Understand I didn't give enough reasoning at the time of making my post, gets me when people do that so apologies on that front.
Just think that the +'s of shoving here outweigh the -'s.

On the plus side. Shoving here does give us an amount of Fold Equity(as discussed), we are more likely to get it in V's the parts of there ranges we
are doing well against IE suited connectors, high broadways and all Ax combo's aswel as 22/33. We can take down a 5bb pot right now. If we call the BB is still live.

Plus when we setmine which I believe at this stack depth is just not Mathematically correct(certain you are aware of the probabilities etc)
we can still flop a set and lose. Hindered here by playing the whole pot OOP with very little chance of getting to showdown.
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« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2014, 12:40:08 PM »

Really not opposed to clicking fold here btw. As long as nobody ever finds out. Misclik innit beany!
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« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2014, 12:51:04 PM »

hmm actually i only saw UTG+1 opened, didnt realise we were 5 handed so its effectively the CO, think that makes it a lot closer but call >>>>>>>>> fold for sure
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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2014, 02:18:31 AM »

Assume its sky mate, is it a bounty hunter? 15bb is loads on sky as there is no antes so I hate shoving as we don't fold out hands we flip v on sky like QJ etc.
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