Questions surrounding the WPT Borgata counterfeit chip scandal...

[lucky_scrote]

It's so easy to introduce fake chips into a tournament I'm sure.. The fact that something can so easily put a huge tournament tits up is incredibly unfair on borgata & WPT.

I Guess something like this had to happen sooner or later. It won't be long until people have technology built into their sunglasses for some kind of advantage be it to read body language, count chips, catch a glimpse of cards via a camera built into a card protector. The list goes on and as daft as any of the above sounds, the technology will be/is available and sunglasses will eventually be banned from live tournaments.

[SuuPRlim]

Prolly should ban sunglasses really.

I remember ages ago playing this game in l.a and someone I didn't recognise sat down with glasses and this guy (can't remember his name, I believe he owned a bunch of oil) said "take those glasses of, no glasses in this game" the guy responded in a German accent he had glaucoma, the other guy was so animated stormed off and came back with his doctor friend and demanded he see if he actually had glaucoma lol obv this guy was neck/back specialist and had no clue but after 5 mins of shouting confirmed the guy had glaucoma and we got on with the game :-D

Btw how stupid are these guys, flushing 940 chips down the toilet? Why on earth would you do that? At the hotel the event is held as well. LOL must be some scumbags with a bit of common sense getting away with all sorts ...

[Sweetman]

Btw how stupid are these guys, flushing 940 chips down the toilet? Why on earth would you do that? At the hotel the event is held as well. LOL must be some scumbags with a bit of common sense getting away with all sorts ...

This is exactly what I thought.  So you find out the chips have been rumbled, why would u try and get rid of nearly a thousand of them in the toilet in the room that has your name on it?? Surely, pack em up and take a drive out at night and dump them somewhere....jeeeez.

[lucky_scrote]

Making counterfeit chips seems something that any muppet could do. It's hardly difficult to come up with.

Take a look at this site: http://envisioningtech.com/envisioning2012/?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008 It shows the predicted jumps in technology and what we have to expect. I think everything up until now has surpassed what everyone had imagined would be possible so it will only be a matter of time until all electronic devices, sunglasses etc will be banned. Why not do it sooner rather than later?

[SuuPRlim]

Btw how stupid are these guys, flushing 940 chips down the toilet? Why on earth would you do that? At the hotel the event is held as well. LOL must be some scumbags with a bit of common sense getting away with all sorts ...

This is exactly what I thought.  So you find out the chips have been rumbled, why would u try and get rid of nearly a thousand of them in the toilet in the room that has your name on it?? Surely, pack em up and take a drive out at night and dump them somewhere....jeeeez.

Yeh was talking about this, I think actually they could have done near on anything else with the chips and would have been better, they could have just wrapped then up and thrown them in a bin in the hotel, or even in his room lol and I doubt they'd have been discovered. Give a taxi driver $500 and tell him to drive it to the nearest public bin and hope he isn't too moralistic, could actually have prolly have put them in a box and left them at the bell desk forever.

Might turn to crime...

[david3103]

More developments:

http://www.pocketfives.com/articles/cancellation-borgata-tourney-due-fake-chips-sparks-class-action-lawsuit-589251/

"As far as what the lawsuit is seeking, the Press of Atlantic City explained, "The lawsuit filed in Atlantic County Superior Court alleges fraud and negligence on the part of Borgata and accuses the casino of failing to properly supervise the event. The claim seeks refunds of the players' buy-in money and entry fees as well as reimbursement for incidental damages, such as travel costs."


Seems a pretty reasonable claim to me. Surprised nobody is after $1MM for emotional damage.

[TightEnd]

http://www.theborgata.com/assets/pdf/poker/winter_open/2014wpo_event1_resolution.pdf

cliffs

Day 1a WPO entrants get refund except for players who busted out before 4:30pm

Day 1B players who played in Signature or Poker Room will not get a refund

Day 1C players will not get a refund,

Day 2 players will get a $560 refund,

players firing multiple bullets may also be eligible

[dakky]

So all they are doing is putting the rake back into the pot and then chopping it? The top 27 basically getting screwed and a ton of people getting a freeroll.

Doesn't seem like much of a punishment! Borgata should probably be contributing more.

I don't really know what a fair resolution is however.