Was this bluff stupid? First post on here

[Oxford_HRV]

maybe a tad too spewy mate, you're chipped up nicely and ITM, what was the buy in? how many are left and are any shortys looking to ladder? either board i would bet flop, then give it some thought before betting the turn pretty big on but i would just give up on J he just calls everyone of his made hands

[baldock92]

It was the ukipt main. I put him on Ax (which he had) and didn't think he'd call off for almost his tournament life with it. Sigh.

[mondatoo]

Just me who shuts down on flop then ?

I just think we have such a big edge deep in these things, and I don't think that comes from barrelling off in spots like these to get random live players to fold top pair.

[SuuPRlim]

mmm different board makes things different. I like barreling off a lot more when the flop is rainbow, and when you don't have a tilty image (both of these make iot much harder to get credit.)

Irrespective i like to go all-in on the river, I thionk going 30k turn and 75k~ (OTR all-in) is best

[pleno1]

20 tabling so sorry if i sound like a dick, but seem like fairly std b, b, j

[youthnkzR]

The thing is he ties with a big portion of your value range as well as beats stone cold bluffs.

When you bet 51k on the river, your betting into a pot of 86k (assuming the table is 8 handed), therefore in order for his call to be correct he doesn't need to right that often. For this reason I think its better to do what Dave said and jam river > betting 51k. Tournament life in is huge in spots like this, especially when a lot of the time your opponent knows they will be calling off to chop at best.

Personally however, I'd be giving up turn. Seems a bad card to bluff as he's most likely not folding Qx / never folding Ax. If we do bet the turn then we have basically committed ourselves to barrelling river seeing as hes rarely to never gonna be folding turn. If we check turn back, we have 3 clean outs to the nuts and one 'dirty' out. If we ping one of these 4 outs then its fairly likely we get small value from all of his Ax / Jx range.

[willrobrobu]

The thing is he ties with a big portion of your value range as well as beats stone cold bluffs.

When you bet 51k on the river, your betting into a pot of 86k (assuming the table is 8 handed), therefore in order for his call to be correct he doesn't need to right that often. For this reason I think its better to do what Dave said and jam river > betting 51k. Tournament life in is huge in spots like this, especially when a lot of the time your opponent knows they will be calling off to chop at best.

Personally however, I'd be giving up turn. Seems a bad card to bluff as he's most likely not folding Qx / never folding Ax. If we do bet the turn then we have basically committed ourselves to barrelling river seeing as hes rarely to never gonna be folding turn. If we check turn back, we have 3 clean outs to the nuts and one 'dirty' out. If we ping one of these 4 outs then its fairly likely we get small value from all of his Ax / Jx range.

i agree with this and give up on turn vs most, although vs some players online i will fire another small turn bet as there is obviously a % of regs who will float A2C on flop waiting for you to slowdown so they can put a steal in. 2 barrels is minimum/mandatory in any pot vs these guys once this is noted.

bet/bet/jam line is fine but overly aggro for me 99% of the time. definitely jam if betting river.

[lolwutwasthat]

Not a horrible bluff but I'd imagine villian not to be folding any Ace on this river. Yes he has Qx too but defo has more Ax in range than he does Qx as he doesnt defend all Qx pre where as he most likely will defend all Ax