Showdown Muck (Cash)

[cambridgealex]

When i first started playing I claimed a chop pot after villain mucked. I got a biro to the neck for it. Good old Gala!

[SuuPRlim]

if you know the person, like the person and think they'd do the same  - then chop.

If not take the pot, it's your pot at the end of the day.

BTW in Vegas yrs ago I played a pot, which we ran twice, I lost both, next day the guy came up to me and said that actually we chopped one of the boards, so I should have gotten 1/4 of the pot back and gave me the money, which considering I'd not even realized was, I thought, pretty incredible of him.

[Tal]

if you know the person, like the person and think they'd do the same  - then chop.

If not take the pot, it's your pot at the end of the day.

So you'd chop it with your mate and keep it from anyone else?

Saves you getting cold in the car park, I suppose.



A for me. I'll never be rich.

[RED-DOG]

I think B but would almost certainly do A

[SuuPRlim]

if you know the person, like the person and think they'd do the same  - then chop.

If not take the pot, it's your pot at the end of the day.

So you'd chop it with your mate and keep it from anyone else?

Saves you getting cold in the car park, I suppose.



A for me. I'll never be rich.

Yeah pretty much. You have to assume that the default for someone you have never seen or met before would be to keep the pot, I've seen it happen where the guy has turned his hand over and laughed and celebrated how he has won half a pot more than he should.

There is nothing immoral about keeping the pot, unless it's an absolute beginner player who genuinely doesn't know better in which case id chop and tell him try be more careful, but at the end of the day he's mucked, the pot is yours those are the rules there is no grey area, if you give half the pot then you are doing him a favor.

So the Q is, would you like to do this person a favor?

[NEWY]

How do we know its a chop if he mucked?  If we got 5 high chance is he mucked the winner 8-9-10 high so wud u be prepared to give him the full pot? If not prob best just keep quiet.

[Tal]

If you mucked in error and the other guy - someone you didn't know and wouldn't have shared with in his position - offered you half the pot...

1) Would you accept? And
2) What would you think about the fact he chose to be nice and chop in a situation in which you would have played to the letter of the law and kept the money?

[SuuPRlim]

I would not accept, but I would NEVER be in this exact spot myself, I don't muck my hand till i've seen the other person's at a showdown...EVER I've seen too many weird things.

Once you've folded your cards you lose the pot it's very simple, if it was someone I liked who'd made a genuine stupid mistake id give them half the money cos its a friendly thing to do. I hate to say but giving someone you don't know money that is yours is pretty muggy, less than 1 in 200 would do the same back imo.

The situation I explained earlier with this guy in a vegas is different because it was a showdown, and my cards were turned over, in such a spot id give anyone the money they were owed. Searching them out the next day to refund the money after the mistake was not noticed is above and beyind mind and hence why it sticks in my mind.