Aces Hand

[byronkincaid]

Game #1976730343: Hold'em NL ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/05/29 - 09:21:12 (ET)
Table "Atria" Seat 5 is the button.
Seat 1: thomas3 ($40.75 in chips)
Seat 2: angel1975 ($49.40 in chips)
Seat 3: 91raver ($108.71 in chips)
Seat 4: Rubinho ($46.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Mario2 ($82.70 in chips)
Seat 6: Thecolts1 ($65.93 in chips)
Thecolts1: posts small blind $0.25
thomas3: posts big blind $0.50
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to 91raver [ ]
angel1975: raises to $2
91raver: raises to $6
Rubinho: folds
Mario2: calls $6
Thecolts1: calls $5.75
thomas3: folds
angel1975: calls $4
----- FLOP ----- [ ]
Thecolts1: checks
angel1975: checks
91raver: bets $16
Mario2: calls $16
Thecolts1: folds
angel1975: folds
----- TURN ----- [ ]

91raver: checks Mario2: bets $25 91raver: calls $25 ----- RIVER ----- [ ][] 91raver: checks Mario2: Mario is 63/7 over 97 hands on my Heads Up thingy. I think that  means he's pretty loose passive. Do you like my line? Do I call a river bet? If so how much?

[Longy]

Umm tricky one im of the opinion that you have to make up you mind on the turn whether your hand is good.

Pre Flop you were unlucky to pick up this many callers, the flop bet is also standard. Have you seen mario showdown any hands and do you have post flop aggression stat on him (tends to be very telling).

As i don't know either these im tempted to lay down the turn, yes its weak but you are often behind here. The only hands i can see you are realistically beating are ak, kq and qq. Yet there are lot you are behind to trips, 2pr even a spawny aq.

So fold the turn unless you have a read. If you are calling the turn, you pretty much have to call any bet on the river because of the odds.

[byronkincaid]

I can't find post flop aggression in PT, (I'm a PT n00b) I think it was saying about 1 on PA HUD.

Thanks for your thoughts. I'm still finding it hard to know when to lay down Aces and when errr not to

cheers

[Longy]

I use GT+ and if you go to the persons name it gives a list of stats in a white box at the very bottom it gives the post flop aggression. General rule of thumb is that anything above 2 is aggressive and below 1 is passive. Mine is about 5 which is very aggressive.

[Josh]

Probably not the best way to play, but  I would have checked the flop, then hoped he'd bet and re-raised. If he'd come over the top I'd have folded, and n the turn if he'd bet I'd have called and hoped for a free river.

[Highstack]

A four way pot with aces is tricky. That doesn't mean that you are behind with them, but without hitting a set it is tough to know where you are post flop.

Tbh I don't think you did much wrong here. You led out on the flop and then when resistance was shown, you slowed down on the turn. I am giving him AK and probably check calling a bet on the river.
 

[rivered]

Yep agreed, that is a really tricky one.  I definitely agree with the comments made about making up your mind on where you are on the turn - that's the right way to look at this hand... Actually the more I think about this, the less I like the AA. 

There aren't many hands you're beating here that he could have called with on your flop bet unless he thought you were at it, which would seem odd as you reraised. 

Look at it from his point of view - if you're in a reraised pot and you've called and the flop comes KJ6, me personally I'm thinking my opponent has either hit with his JJ, AK or KK and I'm a big dog.  So for him to call your bet on the flop means he's either a bit mad, brave, thinks you're at it, or he has a good hand... I'd stick him on 66 or AK - it's a dodgy call by him if he has AQ so I discount the str8, and a call with KJ preflop when it's reraised is also a bit loose. 

Tricky one.  There's $100 in the pot and he only has $40 left to bet.... do you fold with AA when it's $40 to win $140??....  I'm not sure....  What happened then?!

[Royal Flush]

I sometimes wonder if i play on the same internet as evreyone else.

[rivered]

give us an insight then - we're all here to learn from the wise!

[Royal Flush]

Look at it from his point of view - if you're in a reraised pot and you've called and the flop comes KJ6, me personally I'm thinking my opponent has either hit with his JJ, AK or KK

I dont tend to face as many tight opponents. I come across maniacs and muppets aswell!

[byronkincaid]

I called, he had JJ