English greyhound derby

[Bazzaboy]

Was slightly bigger than 10/11 on the exchanges about half an hour before the off

[GlasgowBandit]

I got a number of different bets on Betfair I got on for £30 @ 11/10, £25 @1/2  £40 @ 4/7 £30 @ 8/11

I got my original post wrong I thought Farloe was T 1 so I amde a few bob out of laying T 2 instead.

Most dissapointed in my forecast though, I thought for a second that Joe was going to get there but it was never to be, I should have put in one of the other 2 at shorter odds but I was hoping for a result by having T6 in there.

[bolt pp]

I got a number of different bets on Betfair I got on for £30 @ 11/10, £25 @1/2  £40 @ 4/7 £30 @ 8/11

I got my original post wrong I thought Farloe was T 1 so I amde a few bob out of laying T 2 instead.

Most dissapointed in my forecast though, I thought for a second that Joe was going to get there but it was never to be, I should have put in one of the other 2 at shorter odds but I was hoping for a result by having T6 in there.

Still nice action on the whole, n1

[Steve L]

Another awsome performance from The Hawk! In the end i went in big on The Hawk (8/11 was available at the track) and also backed Mineola Farloe without Westmead Hawk (11/4 with Billy Hills) so managed to secure a doouble result. You have to feel sorry for Mineola Farloe, he did everything right, posted a fast enough time to win almost every Derby ran at Wimbledon, but just found one very special dog to beat him.
   Cheers,
          Steve

[bolt pp]

Ive been thinking about how good westmead really is in comparisson to the wimbledon dogs of my time.

The first(and most obvious) dog that springs to mind is the multi derby winner rapid ranger.

That dog never impressed me with its times and i think on 2 occassions when it won the derby its time was matched or betterd by the dogs in the plate.

Deerfield sunset was a quality little dog(bitch i think) but fell foul to the derby raw on a couple of occassions.

IMO that never matterd because the dog it had to beat was an absolute flyer, chart king.

I think in a match race westmead wouldve gunned down rapid ranger with fluent ease, but against the awsome chart king, i dont think it wouldve got within a lengh of it!

[SKIPPYSKIP]

Bolt

Did you ever see Some Picture run this dog was a machine, had pace all around the wimbledon 480, would be an interesting match up against Hawk.

[Steve L]

 As good a dog as Westmead Hawk is, I think a match up versus Some Picture (were it possible)  would be a none event. Some Picture was an awesome animal and without the prospect of any trouble on the first bend would simply be out and gone. There is no way I could see Westmead Hawk catching him. Some Picture recorded a winning time of 28.23, over 2 lengths faster than The Hawks best ever time at Plough Lane. I think only one dog, Greenane Squire, has ever ran faster around the 480 trip at Wimbledon.

    Westmead Hawk is a very fast dog, but his style of running makes him seem even faster than he is. As you say, Some Picture had tremendous pace all the way around the trip and you have to feel that W Hawk would give him too much of a start to manage to peg him back at the end.

    IMO Bolt is being a little hard on Rapid Ranger, he was a hell of a dog, don't forget in the Plate you often have an exceptionally fast dog ,who found trouble in the heats and failed to reach the final, surrounded by slower animals in the plate. This produces very fast times if the dogs are early paced as they tend to be out and on the bunny getting a solo. Rapid Ranger's winning times compare favourably with most previous winners, with only Some Picture and Westmead Hawk being a lot faster. He won both years in a time of 28.71 exactly 1/2 a length inbetween Chart King (28.67) and Tom's the Best (28.75) who were both in my opinion very fast dogs and just a length and a half slower than Moral Standards.

[bolt pp]

i never saw some picture run so i cant make any comparison.

there was a  dog called rio ricado and i think it got knocked out of the derby in te semis twice, this dog beat rapid ranger in other competitions on a couple of ocassions and was one of the dogs that posted a faster time than rapid when winning the plate but knowone remembers him.

My favorite dog of all time is a dog called pure patches, the first open race winner i ever backed