Aston Villa

[Rooky9]

Yes

[Nem]

yawn... lets go back to my earlier post about the big club debate... its never f***** ending so lets not go there. Please dont be so narrow minded to think that trophies are the only measure of a big football club, trophies as a measure of success perhaps. yes we'd all love them but there arent enough to go round. What also gives you the right to limit the period of time to assess a club over a given period of time?

A clubs history is part of what makes a big club. (amuses me the short sightedness of some sets of supporters)
A clubs support, either week in week out at a stadium or a world wide following, is a great measure of a big club
A club that attracts the top names in the game at a given period of time is a big club
A club that is marked for various performances and styles as well as trophies is a big club
A club that has the financial power to compete with any club in the world in terms of player wages is a measure of a big club
God I could go on but i'm hoping the ounce of sense on this issue might prevail!

yawn! do you think that sunderland and middleboro suit the above criteria?

I have no desire to 'big' (lol) either of them up... or continue the never ending debate

so we are all agreed then, middlesboro and sunderland are shite and martin oniell is a saint?

Unless Ellis goes, O'Neil will be gone in 12months

p.s I hope Roeder does a 'Roeder' and get Newcastle relegated...

[Rooky9]

p.s I hope Roeder does a 'Roeder' and get Newcastle relegated...

Fancy a wager?

[Jinky04]

Em what was the original point concerning MON before the detritus about defining big clubs appeared? I think MON has proven himself at a big club- you may not rate Celtic currently  but in terms of attendance, revenue, trophies, European runs and history, we urinate on Sunderland, Newcastle and Villa from a great height and MON was a great success there.

Watching the his unveiling at Villa gave me a really uncomfortable feeling in my stomach, kinda the same when you see your ex your still hung up on out kissing another guy- an ugly and smelly guy at that 

[Nem]

Not Newcastle.

[gmoneyAK]

think the bet here is a lay instead.

Aston villa to finish bottom think i saw it at 4-1 somewhere that they would be bottom three lay the crap out of that