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« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2006, 03:41:02 PM » |
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I hear flushy was offered the job of head director of ICI but didnt want to take a pay cut 
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« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2006, 03:41:13 PM » |
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My point was more that if I have a 'bad day at the office' it generally doesn't mean people have died.
Sheriff
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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2006, 06:05:33 PM » |
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I agree. Anyone who says they wouldn't want such high wages, given the opportunity, is a liar. And anyone who has some kind of talent and wants the opportunity, should get themselves an agent. And any agents out there...... I need a rise.
Not everyone has a love of money Not everyone thinks money is the answer to everything Not everyone wants to have such high wages as the expense of other things in their lives Not everyone is a liar Not everyone wants to work Should I carry on? Not everyone wants you to carry on.
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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2006, 06:08:28 PM » |
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Don't get me wrong that is very important work, but dont forget that top bosses are keeping thousands of people in work. Don't underestimate how important that is, its not just about £.
I pretty certain that keeping people in work is not an objective for these people.
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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2006, 06:15:23 PM » |
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Don't get me wrong that is very important work, but dont forget that top bosses are keeping thousands of people in work. Don't underestimate how important that is, its not just about £.
I pretty certain that keeping people in work is not an objective for these people. It's a bi-product, the more of success the company becomes the more jobs it creates.
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« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2006, 06:27:13 PM » |
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If they don't keep people in work they'd be short of folks to exploit. The more workers the more they earn so it's in their interest to keep us in work.
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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2006, 06:31:52 PM » |
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I like to think of myself as a Socialist.
However I also believe that hard work should be rewarded.
I think as long as everyone who works is paid fairly for the job they do and the multi nationals treat workers with the respect they deserve and don't take liberties on 3rd world companies, but sometimes well every time profit seems to come first.
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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2006, 06:37:53 PM » |
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Apparently the reason that top bosses are paid so highly is not because they are actually worth it, but so that thousands of others work harder in an effort to get a top job, with very few actually succeeding. A bit like a pyramid scheme.
an interesting observation but that assumes all people are ambitious. i dont think the whole of society are but do take your point that folk wanting to climb the ladder, want that top job. i certainly do but within the current context of society. if we could have a socialist society i wouldnt mind getting paid what everyone else gets.
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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2006, 06:46:31 PM » |
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I don't *necessarily* have a problem with them earning shedloads. What I do object to is them getting inflation busting rises when their staff get increases in line with inflation.
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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2006, 08:50:27 PM » |
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Don't get me wrong that is very important work, but dont forget that top bosses are keeping thousands of people in work. Don't underestimate how important that is, its not just about £.
I pretty certain that keeping people in work is not an objective for these people. It's a bi-product, the more of success the company becomes the more jobs it creates. Don't kid yourself - if a business could automate virtually everything that they do and increase their profits at the same time they would choose that option without hesitation. The only job a standard blue-chip CEO is concerned about is his own.
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« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2006, 08:54:10 PM » |
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Because all people in position of great wealth are evil.
You cant be rich and compasionate?
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« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2006, 09:06:18 PM » |
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Look at Scrooge, he was wealthy but he was also compasionate. Ok, at the start he wasn't a kind guy, but he saw the error of his ways and took the largest turkey in the Butchers shop to Bob Cratchit and his Family on Christmas Day. Tiny Tim had a good meal because of Scrooge " It is a glorious feast Mother. Ohh thankyou, thankyou Mr Scrooge"
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« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2006, 09:06:54 PM » |
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Because all people in position of great wealth are evil.
You cant be rich and compasionate?
Not sure what relevance that comment has. You seem to be confusing entrepreneurship with management. The former creates jobs and wealth and should be rewarded. As far as the latter is concerned it is only interested in efficiently utilising resources, people being one of these.
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« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2006, 09:25:31 PM » |
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As far as the latter is concerned it is only interested in efficiently utilising resources, people being one of these.
certainly the case anywhere I've ever worked - it's all part of being an effective manager. That's not to say those people aren't compassionate outside of their working life.
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