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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2012, 04:51:27 PM »


i can also remember somewhere cant remember where that it didnt close the betting if underraise was over 50% of the orginal bet


50% rule is for fixed limit. <50% is an underraise, >50% is a full raise

anything <100% is an underraise in pl and nl
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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2012, 04:54:39 PM »


i can also remember somewhere cant remember where that it didnt close the betting if underraise was over 50% of the orginal bet


50% rule is for fixed limit. <50% is an underraise, >50% is a full raise

anything <100% is an underraise in pl and nl

yeah cant remember where it was it was in my early days of playing that gave that ruling for a NLHE comp though
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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2012, 04:54:50 PM »

A can't raise. the rule you want from robert's rules is

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An under-raise happens when a player goes all in and in doing so has raised the bet but not by the full
amount necessary. When this happens the betting becomes ‘locked’. Any players that have already
acted in the hand (called, checked, bet etc) may not re-raise. Any players that have not yet acted may
raise as normal if they wish

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the minimum raise in any situation is always the the amount raised to-previous call. for example

at blind level 100/200

player A bets 600, player B raises to 1600, back to player A, the minimum raise he can make now is to 2,600

600 with 1000 with 1000.

if player A in fact decides to raise to 3000, Player B's minimum raise is  to... 4,600

600, with 1000, with 1400, with 1400 = 4,600.
Not always the case lildave. i remember Vicky Coren and the late George Geary coming to blows in the first Ukipt season at G in Manchester. iirc G casino rules said the raise had to be min twice the previous bet as opposed to the "with" rule that is most commonly used. As it was A ukipt tourney Vicky was given the nod eventually but she had to go above the TD who gave the original ruling to George and the double the raise rule.
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2012, 05:08:09 PM »

A can't raise. the rule you want from robert's rules is

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An under-raise happens when a player goes all in and in doing so has raised the bet but not by the full
amount necessary. When this happens the betting becomes ‘locked’. Any players that have already
acted in the hand (called, checked, bet etc) may not re-raise. Any players that have not yet acted may
raise as normal if they wish


Just to get this 100% right, player a could only call as player c only called and the bb folded? if player c or bb raised could player a now re-raise?

 
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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2012, 05:11:25 PM »

yes. if C or bb raise that would reopen the betting so A would have all options again
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2012, 05:12:58 PM »

yes. if C or bb raise that would reopen the betting so A would have all options again

Great stuff, thats How I understood the rule in this case so just wanted make sure I was correct.
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