OT matter of utmost importance

[turny]

Cheers.

All the best!

I do like will and grace but again friends dwarfs it. I think i just like saying dwarf!
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"HOW FAR AWAY ARE THEY?" from the greatest sitcom ever you can keep the american shite imo.

[lazaroonie]

As far an American sitcoms go Will & Grace is so far above anything else!!!!

that is the funniest thing I have ever read.

a one joke program full of horrific characters which they have managed to spin out to about 5 years.

[lazaroonie]

i wonder if its possible to have a crap sitcom with an utterly brilliant character ?

That would be the case with "king of queens", and the character is the old guy "Arthur" played by jerry stiller.

He has 100% of the fall down funny lines in this show. His delivery is right on the money too. A bit like the late great Peter Boyle in everybpdy loves raymond.

[thetank]

David Spade in that Blush magazine one (I forget it's name) may be a candidate for that too.


Maybe not an utterly brilliant character, but head and shoulders above the rest of the show makes him look it.

[KingPoker]

David Spade in that Blush magazine one (I forget it's name) may be a candidate for that too.


Maybe not an utterly brilliant character, but head and shoulders above the rest of the show makes him look it.

Just shoot me is the name!

[TightPaulFolds]

i wonder if its possible to have a crap sitcom with an utterly brilliant character ?

That would be the case with "king of queens", and the character is the old guy "Arthur" played by jerry stiller.

He has 100% of the fall down funny lines in this show. His delivery is right on the money too. A bit like the late great Peter Boyle in everybpdy loves raymond.

sad loss.
You sold half of our joint burial plot?
-The neighbours had an emergency, they needed the space!
How do you know it was your half?
-I ALWAYS sleep on the left!
Didn't you think it would upset me when I found out?
-How could it have mattered? You go first, you can't yell at me. I go first, yell all you want!
I think you just want rid of me
-Hey.."Til death do us part." After that, you're on your own

I agree, great actor. I do like the rest of the show though as well. I suppose I just fancy the wife. Just Raymond's wife. Mostly just Raymond's wife.

[bolt pp]

As far an American sitcoms go Will & Grace is so far above anything else!!!!

that is the funniest thing I have ever read.

a one joke program full of horrific characters which they have managed to spin out to about 5 years.

LOL, I dont think the term "managed to" is correct in describing the shows longevity.

It was a consistently popular show with high ratings that ended before it became hackneyed, much like the office and fawlty towers.

[thetank]

 

[bolt pp]

I forgot to mention The Larry Sanders show!!!

Pure comedic genius!!!!


 

[Muahahahaha]

Cheers - Great with Shelley Long, never the same with the 'added' characters.  The death of Coach, was the beginning of the end.

Mash- Brilliant.  But canned laughter & When Alan Alda started getting involved in the directing, it all got a bit mushey.  But in it's earliest form - brilliant.  Probably the first sit com that wasn't a jolly fest all the time, so I put it down as THE original of it's kind

Taxi - Judd Hirsh. Taxi made him, and ruined him.  But just think, without Taxi, Danny Devito would never have broken through as an actor.  Imagine life without Twins, Throw Momma From The Train, & god knows how many classics since then.

Everything since has just been the same gags in different scenes 

Ok I'm exagerating. Friends was good every other series, but never pushing the boundaries, Will & Grace - Aren't gay people funny.  Oh & Jews too.  Yes the first series was funny & different, but making Karen speak more quickly & squeeky, & using Jack as a one gag wonder does not a great series make. Frasier - Good but generic, The worse Kelsey Grammer got, the more David Hyde Pierce stole the show.

I've never been a great fan of satires like Larry Sanders & The Office, but to each their own.  Seinfeld actually looked at things from a different slant, so I think he will go down as a classic in time.

But I still think the old black & white Dad's Army, are untouchable.  The early shows had agenuine edge to them, it's just a shame that it went on too long & became just another camp '70s English Comedy

[boldie]

out of these three it has to be cheer!...Norm rules supreme

[Pokerron]

loved all three, but Cheers gets my vote.

Curb Your Enthusiasm is all ready a classic imo

Very good call, "Curb", Fraiser and Sienfeld have raised the bar so high its almost unfair on cheers/mash/taxi, of the 3 cheers is the only one I could almost watch if it was on, I always hated mash.