An Odd Rule Question

[tikay]

Midalnd Meltdown at Walsall, Main Event, superbly organised & run, if I may say so.

So Jeff Buffenburger takes two huge beats in consecutive hands, both times with a House. So he takes his second tranche of 7.5k - still smiling, as ever with the great man, & says "I'm off to watch a movie for an hour or so, I have more chance of doubling up when I return, & the Blinds are bigger". Fair enough, & off he trundles. (Walsall Grosvenor is next door - literally - to a Muiltiplex Cinema).

He leaves the building, & has just reached the Cinema Entrance, when a breathless Grosvenor Reception Staff Member, helpfully & kindly, catches up with him.

"If you leave the premises during a Tourney, you will be disqualified". So he returned to the Casino immediately.

Eh?

I asked a few Staff, none of them knew this to be the case, just puzzled frowns. I guess it'd be a GC thing rather than a Grosvenor thing, but anyone seen or heard this before, & is it correct?

[Royal Flush]

Midalnd Meltdown at Walsall, Main Event, superbly organised & run, if I may say so.

So Jeff Buffenburger takes two huge beats in consecutive hands, both times with a House. So he takes his second tranche of 7.5k - still smiling, as ever with the great man, & says "I'm off to watch a movie for an hour or so, I have more chance of doubling up when I return, & the Blinds are bigger". Fair enough, & off he trundles. (Walsall Grosvenor is next door - literally - to a Muiltiplex Cinema).

He leaves the building, & has just reached the Cinema Entrance, when a breathless Grosvenor Reception Staff Member, helpfully & kindly, catches up with him.

"If you leave the premises during a Tourney, you will be disqualified". So he returned to the Casino immediately.

Eh?

I asked a few Staff, none of them knew this to be the case, just puzzled frowns. I guess it'd be a GC thing rather than a Grosvenor thing, but anyone seen or heard this before, & is it correct?

Seems odd to me! How do they restart day 2 of a tournament whilst people are stuck in traffic without 'ing them? If that is the rule....

[tikay]

Midalnd Meltdown at Walsall, Main Event, superbly organised & run, if I may say so.

So Jeff Buffenburger takes two huge beats in consecutive hands, both times with a House. So he takes his second tranche of 7.5k - still smiling, as ever with the great man, & says "I'm off to watch a movie for an hour or so, I have more chance of doubling up when I return, & the Blinds are bigger". Fair enough, & off he trundles. (Walsall Grosvenor is next door - literally - to a Muiltiplex Cinema).

He leaves the building, & has just reached the Cinema Entrance, when a breathless Grosvenor Reception Staff Member, helpfully & kindly, catches up with him.

"If you leave the premises during a Tourney, you will be disqualified". So he returned to the Casino immediately.

Eh?

I asked a few Staff, none of them knew this to be the case, just puzzled frowns. I guess it'd be a GC thing rather than a Grosvenor thing, but anyone seen or heard this before, & is it correct?

Seems odd to me! How do they restart day 2 of a tournament whilst people are stuck in traffic without 'ing them? If that is the rule....

Good point.

[GlasgowBandit]

Seems a nonsense to me, with the smoking ban in Scotland players reguarly leave the card rooms during tournaments for a cigarette.

I'd assume the same thing happens down south if the smoking ban has come in or it will when the ban does take effect.

[Irishdenis]

Not the only strange rule from Walsall. I might be wrong and I accepted it at the time but here goes

£300 freeze No Limit    I am involved in a four way pot. I had limped with AA hoping for a raise and get called by Ash and Mr Singleton. The flop is a non event and I decide to check raise. Ash raises and Mr Singleton calls. I then re-raise and Ash passes.   As seems to be the habit in Walsall the chips are not spread out on the table but stacked in lines above the flop cards. Mr Singleton asks for the chips to be sorted into colours and restacked so he can count them. I question this as it is No limit. My opinion is that the chips should be spread out and it us to him to work it out. The ruling comes back that the dealer can put all the 1000 chips together and the 500 and the 100 chips together. I think this is wrong but perhaps their is a change of rule ! ! ! As it happens because the dealer had started to do the work I allowed it to continue and only asked for the ruling after the hand. Future reference for when it was important...Am I right or wrong

[Ironside]

Not the only strange rule from Walsall. I might be wrong and I accepted it at the time but here goes

£300 freeze No Limit    I am involved in a four way pot. I had limped with AA hoping for a raise and get called by Ash and Mr Singleton. The flop is a non event and I decide to check raise. Ash raises and Mr Singleton calls. I then re-raise and Ash passes.   As seems to be the habit in Walsall the chips are not spread out on the table but stacked in lines above the flop cards. Mr Singleton asks for the chips to be sorted into colours and restacked so he can count them. I question this as it is No limit. My opinion is that the chips should be spread out and it us to him to work it out. The ruling comes back that the dealer can put all the 1000 chips together and the 500 and the 100 chips together. I think this is wrong but perhaps their is a change of rule ! ! ! As it happens because the dealer had started to do the work I allowed it to continue and only asked for the ruling after the hand. Future reference for when it was important...Am I right or wrong

i always thought that a player could ASK for a count of the pot or the other players stack at any time

BUT the dealer should not do a count unless asked

[Claw75]

Not the only strange rule from Walsall. I might be wrong and I accepted it at the time but here goes

£300 freeze No Limit    I am involved in a four way pot. I had limped with AA hoping for a raise and get called by Ash and Mr Singleton. The flop is a non event and I decide to check raise. Ash raises and Mr Singleton calls. I then re-raise and Ash passes.   As seems to be the habit in Walsall the chips are not spread out on the table but stacked in lines above the flop cards. Mr Singleton asks for the chips to be sorted into colours and restacked so he can count them. I question this as it is No limit. My opinion is that the chips should be spread out and it us to him to work it out. The ruling comes back that the dealer can put all the 1000 chips together and the 500 and the 100 chips together. I think this is wrong but perhaps their is a change of rule ! ! ! As it happens because the dealer had started to do the work I allowed it to continue and only asked for the ruling after the hand. Future reference for when it was important...Am I right or wrong

i always thought that a player could ASK for a count of the pot or the other players stack at any time

BUT the dealer should not do a count unless asked

Me too, although I recall there was a thread a while back highlighting different practices on this too.  (edit - here http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=5989.0)

I personallly can't see any problem in someone asking for the chips to be arranged so that they are easier to count.

[stoneii]

More variance - from what I heard you can ask the dealer for a count of another players stack but not what's in the pot, that's up to you.

stoneii

[Royal Flush]

More variance - from what I heard you can ask the dealer for a count of another players stack but not what's in the pot, that's up to you.

stoneii

Yeah and its an idiotic rule that only serves to deter the newer players from coming back.

[The Sweeney]

Midalnd Meltdown at Walsall, Main Event, superbly organised & run, if I may say so.

So Jeff Buffenburger takes two huge beats in consecutive hands, both times with a House. So he takes his second tranche of 7.5k - still smiling, as ever with the great man, & says "I'm off to watch a movie for an hour or so, I have more chance of doubling up when I return, & the Blinds are bigger". Fair enough, & off he trundles. (Walsall Grosvenor is next door - literally - to a Muiltiplex Cinema).

He leaves the building, & has just reached the Cinema Entrance, when a breathless Grosvenor Reception Staff Member, helpfully & kindly, catches up with him.

"If you leave the premises during a Tourney, you will be disqualified". So he returned to the Casino immediately.

Eh?

I asked a few Staff, none of them knew this to be the case, just puzzled frowns. I guess it'd be a GC thing rather than a Grosvenor thing, but anyone seen or heard this before, & is it correct?

As you are no doubt aware I used to supervise at Walsall and my ruling would have been thus.....

"If it's Ocean's 13 take as long as you like.  Oh yeah, and can you been bring me some of those nachos back?"

"If it's Spidey, or any other rubbish, you son are disqualified!  Don't darken my door again!"