Booing a player for your national team

[The Baron]

Porto was an unbelievable couple of years, I dont know if he bought or inhertited those four or five top quality players but either way their win in the CL deserves massive credit. However, does anyone know who was the Greece manager in 2004? Is he one of the best managers in the world? IMO he's effort to get that team to win the Euro's is bigger than Porto in the CL.

Good post.

But does it matter if he inherited the Porto team or built it? He made them winners when they weren't before. I do think other managers could do what he's doing at Chelsea but the Porto success was his whichever way you look at it.

It is a myth to think they had a few good players though - their whole team was good. I'd bet that most people know nearly all of their team from back then if they were listed now. The only reason they were seen as a small team is becuase it was that success that made them household names. Before that season they were nobodies. They had some first XI though.

[turny]

i think some are missing the point here im trying to make.

im not trying to claim that mourinho is the best manager ever (though one day he may rival the greats but some way off yet) im claiming that he is a better manager than mclaren.

his record in club management is a class above mclaren and also his tactical awareness and ability to make the right change if things are going wrong have been highlighted on many occassions this season.

this seems to be one of the main problems for the recent two england managers that when things are going wrong they are not able to change things around to change the game. either not tactically aware enough or not brave enough one or the other.

this was my main gripe regards eriksson that while a match was underway he might as well have been watching on tv at home as far as the contribution he made to it during the 90 minutes.

[AdamM]

and my point was simply that I wouldn't want Mourinho as England manager.

[The Baron]

i think some are missing the point here im trying to make.

im not trying to claim that mourinho is the best manager ever (though one day he may rival the greats but some way off yet) im claiming that he is a better manager than mclaren.

his record in club management is a class above mclaren and also his tactical awareness and ability to make the right change if things are going wrong have been highlighted on many occassions this season.

this seems to be one of the main problems for the recent two england managers that when things are going wrong they are not able to change things around to change the game. either not tactically aware enough or not brave enough one or the other.

this was my main gripe regards eriksson that while a match was underway he might as well have been watching on tv at home as far as the contribution he made to it during the 90 minutes.

Mourinho would fit right in with England. We always make excuses for being knocked out of tournaments and never admit we weren't good enough....  

On a serious note though he's about a hundred times better than McClaren. So were 14 other managers last season. (So is anyone who's ever played Championship Manager for that matter)

The national team does need a better manager without a doubt. I just don't think Adam (and many others) would like Mourinho to be that man.

Personally if England starts winning tournaments I dont care who it is.

[Rooky9]

Personally if England starts winning tournaments I dont care who it is.

This will happen at some point, it just probably won't be within either of the two managers mentioned careers!

[kinboshi]

Personally if England starts winning tournaments I dont care who it is.

This will happen at some point, it just probably won't be within either of the two managers mentioned careers!

My grandchildren have something to look forward to...

[JungleCat03]

i think some are missing the point here im trying to make.

im not trying to claim that mourinho is the best manager ever (though one day he may rival the greats but some way off yet) im claiming that he is a better manager than mclaren.

his record in club management is a class above mclaren and also his tactical awareness and ability to make the right change if things are going wrong have been highlighted on many occassions this season.

this seems to be one of the main problems for the recent two england managers that when things are going wrong they are not able to change things around to change the game. either not tactically aware enough or not brave enough one or the other.

this was my main gripe regards eriksson that while a match was underway he might as well have been watching on tv at home as far as the contribution he made to it during the 90 minutes.

Mourinho would fit right in with England. We always make excuses for being knocked out of tournaments and never admit we weren't good enough....   

On a serious note though he's about a hundred times better than McClaren. So were 14 other managers last season. (So is anyone who's ever played Championship Manager for that matter)

The national team does need a better manager without a doubt. I just don't think Adam (and many others) would like Mourinho to be that man.

Personally if England starts winning tournaments I dont care who it is.

This guy decided to apply for the middlesborough manager's job, based on his extensive "football manager" experience...

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~kritip/managers%20job.htm

Classic quote......

"I've taken the opportunity to gain extra qualifications away from football including gaining a degree in geography and archeology which I'm sure will provide many transferable skills that will assist me in running a football club. I hear Mark Viduka has a significatn and considerable interest in 12th century Egyptian pottery which would be an excellent bonding point for the two of us if I were to be successful"

[The Baron]

PMSL!

I hear many lower league clubs have had applicants for people with CM experience.

By the way does anyone know if it is true that Big Sam used to have close sommunication with the CM scouts?

[Rod Paradise]

I don't like Mourinho. I dislike how when things go well it's because of his greatness but when things go badly it's a conspiracy. It has nothing to do with Man Utd / Chelsea rivalry. there are plenty of rival managers I respect a lot more than him. he's a bad beat story teller. he seems to be devoid of any humility. McLaren comes across much better to me.

But the Scots aren't meant to dislike England? 

[The Baron]

I don't like Mourinho. I dislike how when things go well it's because of his greatness but when things go badly it's a conspiracy. It has nothing to do with Man Utd / Chelsea rivalry. there are plenty of rival managers I respect a lot more than him. he's a bad beat story teller. he seems to be devoid of any humility. McLaren comes across much better to me.

But the Scots aren't meant to dislike England? 

Ah, so it's because we're bad beat whiners? The ABE thread all makes sense now.

[Rod Paradise]

I don't like Mourinho. I dislike how when things go well it's because of his greatness but when things go badly it's a conspiracy. It has nothing to do with Man Utd / Chelsea rivalry. there are plenty of rival managers I respect a lot more than him. he's a bad beat story teller. he seems to be devoid of any humility. McLaren comes across much better to me.

But the Scots aren't meant to dislike England? 

Ah, so it's because we're bad beat whiners? The ABE thread all makes sense now.

NO - Pre-game chirpers, THEN bad beat whiners (even when you went in behind), well your press is anyhow - I try not to let that sour me on the rest of you