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« on: November 09, 2007, 11:08:23 AM »

What sort of stratergy should you adopt playing cash games the same as you do when you are playing in a mtt or not?? Thanks
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2007, 11:28:50 AM »

The obvious difference is that in an MTT the blinds keep going up and up.

If you have 10,000 chips and blinds are 25/50 then you can pick and choose your hands to play and you don't need to take any daft risks or get involved out of position with marginal hands. This starts to change as the blinds increase. You are forced to get involved just to keep your head above water or the blinds will eat you up.

In cash games the blinds don't go up. Stealing the blinds in an MTT is something you must be able to do to win but in a cash game it is not so improtant as the blinds are always small compared to the stack sizes.

I'd say playing in position becomes more important in cash games. It's important in MTT's also but I'd say it's more important in cash games.

Tilt affects you more in cash games in the sense that you can buy back in until you run out of money. In an MTT once you are out you are out and all you have lost is your buy-in.

Following on from Tilt - bankroll management is also vital in cash games.

Can't think of anything else. I'm sure all the cash game players will have more advice
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2007, 02:37:12 PM »

sorry i am new to this so bare with me:) when you say playing position becomes important what does that mean and how do you play position? i assume its to do with where you are sitting? thanks
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2007, 02:41:10 PM »

Position is about the order of whose turn it is to act, with the best position being to act last (as you can see what everyone else has done) and the worst being first to act.
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2007, 02:45:11 PM »

ok that seems straight forward enough Smiley so to play position you would have to be on the button or maybe the position before the button as well?Huh?, and then if one or two have limped or every one has folded around to you then  rasie it up with pretty much any two cards??? or only if you have something fairly decent, thanks
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2007, 03:22:06 PM »

It's all subjective Mr Timberman, there are no hard and fast rules. It depends on so many variables. Your opponents style, your style, whats gone before, your cards, your position, the size of the pot, the number of players.... etc etc etc.

I myself never raise under any curcumstances unless I have a premium hand.
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2007, 03:23:52 PM »

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I myself never raise under any curcumstances unless I have a premium hand.

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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2007, 03:25:13 PM »

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No. Ask anyone.
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2007, 03:26:11 PM »

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It's the truth.  However, his definition of 'premium hand' is very generous.
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2007, 06:27:10 PM »

The obvious difference is that in an MTT the blinds keep going up and up.

If you have 10,000 chips and blinds are 25/50 then you can pick and choose your hands to play and you don't need to take any daft risks or get involved out of position with marginal hands. This starts to change as the blinds increase. You are forced to get involved just to keep your head above water or the blinds will eat you up.

In cash games the blinds don't go up. Stealing the blinds in an MTT is something you must be able to do to win but in a cash game it is not so improtant as the blinds are always small compared to the stack sizes.

I'd say playing in position becomes more important in cash games. It's important in MTT's also but I'd say it's more important in cash games.

Tilt affects you more in cash games in the sense that you can buy back in until you run out of money. In an MTT once you are out you are out and all you have lost is your buy-in.

Following on from Tilt - bankroll management is also vital in cash games.

Can't think of anything else. I'm sure all the cash game players will have more advice
with all the above.
Position is always vitally important,  having the right position on certain players is  also a massively important Factor IMO .
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2007, 07:00:14 PM »

I agree fully with the above posts regarding position etc, but I believe that there is a fundamental mindset difference between MTT's and cash.

A cash game is an endless road which you can get on or off at will, whereas an MTT has a finite end with the game building toward a conclusion and different strategies required for different phases of the game.

Some players are far better suited to one mindset over the other. I have a good long term winning record in MTT's but am the biggest fish in the sea at all forms of cash, just doesn't suit my style at all.
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2007, 12:09:17 PM »

sorry i am new to this so bare with me:) when you say playing position becomes important what does that mean and how do you play position? i assume its to do with where you are sitting? thanks

Basically what I mean by playing in position is that you always want to be last to act after the flop.

If you are last to act then you have more information and your decisions are easier.

I wouldn't say play any two cards from the button but certainly play hands with big potential like connected cards ( 67, 78, 89, etc...) or one gappers like 97, 86, J9 etc....

You really need to play for a while to fully understand the power of position I played for about six months before the penny really dropped with me.

p.s. I don't know what other posters think but I think that good cash game players also do well in MTT's But good MTT players don't necessarily do well in cash games
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