Surely its time we are all on a DNA database

[Royal Flush]

Definitely not educated enough to get involved in such an interesting debate.

I am just wondering whether or not the following scenario would be possible:

You go to the hospital/doctors where a routine blood test is done, then without your knowledge it is then passed on to the National Database ?

Personally I wouldn't object to being on such a database, on the grounds that I don't have anything to hide, and I don't see myself as committing a crime (but that appears to be the wrong reasons).

I have wondered this myself.

I have also been wondering about cloning ... I don't know that much about it but have wondered what future technologies could be used to 'misuse' someone's DNA held on the database.

As long as the science is in place, there's nothing to stop a government agency using your DNA to cultivate cells and then planting this 'evidence' at a scene of crime. 

Would be a very quick and easy way of governments dealing with 'objectionable elements' - whether that be terror suspects, political opponents, or just people who've rubbed certain individuals up the wrong way (maybe they don't like you seeing their daughter, or the way you parked your car to block their driveway). 

The official death of this thread.

[boldie]

Definitely not educated enough to get involved in such an interesting debate.

I am just wondering whether or not the following scenario would be possible:

You go to the hospital/doctors where a routine blood test is done, then without your knowledge it is then passed on to the National Database ?

Personally I wouldn't object to being on such a database, on the grounds that I don't have anything to hide, and I don't see myself as committing a crime (but that appears to be the wrong reasons).

I have wondered this myself.

I have also been wondering about cloning ... I don't know that much about it but have wondered what future technologies could be used to 'misuse' someone's DNA held on the database.

As long as the science is in place, there's nothing to stop a government agency using your DNA to cultivate cells and then planting this 'evidence' at a scene of crime. 

Would be a very quick and easy way of governments dealing with 'objectionable elements' - whether that be terror suspects, political opponents, or just people who've rubbed certain individuals up the wrong way (maybe they don't like you seeing their daughter, or the way you parked your car to block their driveway). 

The official death of this thread.

yeah that's kindoff what I thought when I saw it.

even I don't watch enough Hollywood conspiracy theory movies to believe the above.

[Bongo]

It would be easier just to arrest them under some new terrorism laws which allow you to throw people in prison, because you feel like it.

[boldie]

It would be easier just to arrest them under some new terrorism laws which allow you to throw people in prison, because you feel like it.

indeed..who needs to fake evidence?

[kinboshi]

It would be easier just to arrest them under some new terrorism laws which allow you to throw people in prison, because you feel like it.

indeed..who needs to fake evidence?

Prince Philip.

[kinboshi]

It would be easier just to arrest them under some new terrorism laws which allow you to throw people in prison, because you feel like it.

You can't arrest them if you're not government of that country.

[boldie]

It would be easier just to arrest them under some new terrorism laws which allow you to throw people in prison, because you feel like it.

You can't arrest them if you're not government of that country.

You can just fake an accident by having the paparazi chase them down a tunnel though.

[suzanne]

Definitely not educated enough to get involved in such an interesting debate.

I am just wondering whether or not the following scenario would be possible:

You go to the hospital/doctors where a routine blood test is done, then without your knowledge it is then passed on to the National Database ?

Personally I wouldn't object to being on such a database, on the grounds that I don't have anything to hide, and I don't see myself as committing a crime (but that appears to be the wrong reasons).

EXACTLY!!

I suggested this early on in the thread but was dismissed.

I know when my kids were born a blood test was taken by pricking their heel, 4 spots on a paper to be sent off to the labs.

Am I REALLY the only 1 that thinks there is a database ongoing without our knowledge?

[madasahatstand]

Definitely not educated enough to get involved in such an interesting debate.

I am just wondering whether or not the following scenario would be possible:

You go to the hospital/doctors where a routine blood test is done, then without your knowledge it is then passed on to the National Database ?

Personally I wouldn't object to being on such a database, on the grounds that I don't have anything to hide, and I don't see myself as committing a crime (but that appears to be the wrong reasons).

EXACTLY!!

I suggested this early on in the thread but was dismissed.

I know when my kids were born a blood test was taken by pricking their heel, 4 spots on a paper to be sent off to the labs.

Am I REALLY the only 1 that thinks there is a database ongoing without our knowledge?

Suzanne

That heel prick test is taken to look for some serious conditions in your baby that might require treatment, for example to make an early diagnosis of cystic fibrosis and hypothyroidism.  Heres a link..http://www.homeandhealthtv.co.uk/hh_site/article.jsp?section_id=7&theme_id=23&subtheme_id=80&article_id=81&site=uk

[boldie]

Definitely not educated enough to get involved in such an interesting debate.

I am just wondering whether or not the following scenario would be possible:

You go to the hospital/doctors where a routine blood test is done, then without your knowledge it is then passed on to the National Database ?

Personally I wouldn't object to being on such a database, on the grounds that I don't have anything to hide, and I don't see myself as committing a crime (but that appears to be the wrong reasons).

EXACTLY!!

I suggested this early on in the thread but was dismissed.

I know when my kids were born a blood test was taken by pricking their heel, 4 spots on a paper to be sent off to the labs.

Am I REALLY the only 1 that thinks there is a database ongoing without our knowledge?

Other than Oliver Stone and Kinboshi?..Probably, yes.

[kinboshi]

Definitely not educated enough to get involved in such an interesting debate.

I am just wondering whether or not the following scenario would be possible:

You go to the hospital/doctors where a routine blood test is done, then without your knowledge it is then passed on to the National Database ?

Personally I wouldn't object to being on such a database, on the grounds that I don't have anything to hide, and I don't see myself as committing a crime (but that appears to be the wrong reasons).

I have wondered this myself.

I have also been wondering about cloning ... I don't know that much about it but have wondered what future technologies could be used to 'misuse' someone's DNA held on the database.

As long as the science is in place, there's nothing to stop a government agency using your DNA to cultivate cells and then planting this 'evidence' at a scene of crime. 

Would be a very quick and easy way of governments dealing with 'objectionable elements' - whether that be terror suspects, political opponents, or just people who've rubbed certain individuals up the wrong way (maybe they don't like you seeing their daughter, or the way you parked your car to block their driveway). 

The official death of this thread.

yeah that's kindoff what I thought when I saw it.

even I don't watch enough Hollywood conspiracy theory movies to believe the above.

The science isn't in place now - but it will be within 20 years.

[robbiebox]

Anyone else here in the database??

Yep, High Jinks on a stag do ( No arrest or conviction, time in the cop shop to sober up but details taken) in Newcastle landed me on the Database 6 years ago.

Cant say I like it, I do think the Police are under pressure to solve crimes and if my DNA is found at the scene of a crime (however that may be and there are lots of possibilities where this could happen innocently) then I am going to become a suspect.

I actually think that a universal DNA database has more positives than negatives. But I would never have volunteered to go on it as false convictions can occur and lets face it you never know if you might commit a crime in the future. I have no intentions of ever commiting any crime but thru circumstance, drink, misjudgement or antagonism something might happen that i would rather get away with rather than hold my hands up and spend years inside thank you.