Tipping, your opinions please

[Jon MW]

I don't believe in tipping,it sickens me that employers get to pay minimum wages,and expect you to make it up to a livable ammount.
I hope we never get to be like the States,whare a large portion of the working community rely on the good will of customers to give them a living wage.

A FAIR DAYS PAY FOR A FAIR DAYS WORK. Was the mantra of those that went before us.If tipping were not the norm,employers including casinos would have to pay a living wage, or do the dealing,door,valet reception themselves.

By the way I always tip..................but I can dream of utopia

Although I agree in principle to the general gist of your post, I think it's worth reiterating that the minimum wage in Britain is a livable amount and so it is a living wage. So there is no question of people having to tip to provide the dealers et al with an additional income.

It might be a lot less than a lot of people would like, but the minimum wage is enough to live on.

[Colchester Kev]

I don't believe in tipping,it sickens me that employers get to pay minimum wages,and expect you to make it up to a livable ammount.
I hope we never get to be like the States,whare a large portion of the working community rely on the good will of customers to give them a living wage.

A FAIR DAYS PAY FOR A FAIR DAYS WORK. Was the mantra of those that went before us.If tipping were not the norm,employers including casinos would have to pay a living wage, or do the dealing,door,valet reception themselves.

By the way I always tip..................but I can dream of utopia

Although I agree in principle to the general gist of your post, I think it's worth reiterating that the minimum wage in Britain is a livable amount and so it is a living wage. So there is no question of people having to tip to provide the dealers et al with an additional income.

It might be a lot less than a lot of people would like, but the minimum wage is enough to live on.

That was a party political broadcast on behalf of the Labour party.

[Jon MW]

I don't believe in tipping,it sickens me that employers get to pay minimum wages,and expect you to make it up to a livable ammount.
I hope we never get to be like the States,whare a large portion of the working community rely on the good will of customers to give them a living wage.

A FAIR DAYS PAY FOR A FAIR DAYS WORK. Was the mantra of those that went before us.If tipping were not the norm,employers including casinos would have to pay a living wage, or do the dealing,door,valet reception themselves.

By the way I always tip..................but I can dream of utopia

Although I agree in principle to the general gist of your post, I think it's worth reiterating that the minimum wage in Britain is a livable amount and so it is a living wage. So there is no question of people having to tip to provide the dealers et al with an additional income.

It might be a lot less than a lot of people would like, but the minimum wage is enough to live on.

That was a party political broadcast on behalf of the Labour party.

bugger, you're right - that is supportive of a Labour initiative - - I feel slightly nauseous and unclean now.

[henrik777]

Would you get enough people willing to deal for minimum wage and no tips ? Do you think the casinos would pay extra if tipping was banned ? Who would foot the bill for the extra wages ?

Lack of dealers means more self dealing which isn't all that popular from what i remember being posted on here back when this place was newish.

If enough people don't tip dealers will be harder to find as it's not a job worth doing without tips for most people.

Sandy

[Grier78]

Would you get enough people willing to deal for minimum wage and no tips ? Do you think the casinos would pay extra if tipping was banned ? Who would foot the bill for the extra wages ?

Lack of dealers means more self dealing which isn't all that popular from what i remember being posted on here back when this place was newish.

If enough people don't tip dealers will be harder to find as it's not a job worth doing without tips for most people.

Sandy

It all comes down to having a suitable substainable business model. At the end of the day business is a democracy and you vote with every pound you spend/or don't spend.

[RED-DOG]

IMHO All those players who think the dealer is responsible for the dross they get dealt shoud tip big and often.

[Wardonkey]

Dealers in casinos do not get tips. Although the gaming act allows it there is provision within the act for employers to deny gaming staff the opportunity to accept tips.

None of the major casino groups allow their gaming staff to accept tips.

[ericstoner]

Why would they allow tips,it'll only lower the drop on the gaming tables.anything that lets a percentage of a persons spend for the evening going anywhare but into the casinos coffers,is to be not entertained at any cost.

[Wardonkey]

Why would they allow tips,it'll only lower the drop on the gaming tables.anything that lets a percentage of a persons spend for the evening going anywhare but into the casinos coffers,is to be not entertained at any cost.

Casinos biggest problems are staffing and motivating staff to give good service.
 
Allowing tips would go a long way to addressing these problems and in the long term the wage bill might actually be reduced.

A dealer who is willing to entertain players and promote his game will get a larger drop than a badly motivated and tired dealer.

Having more tables open spreads the action, reduces variance and speeds up games.

Casinos are shooting themselves in the foot by not allowing tipping.

[tikay]

Rather than tip per winning Pot, I prefer to Tip at the end of a Session, usually (if I remember) £25. I feel a little embarrassed to keep shippng £1 tips to the Dealer. I confess, though, to often forgetting.

The Notion that we should Tip a Dealer for Dealing us a winning hand is, of course, a complete nonsense. We should Tip because they Deal well - and Dealing well, & Dealing us winning hands, are completely different things.